@wintercoast said in US Justice tries to cut Google Chrome from Alphabet?:

@Catweazle said in US Justice tries to cut Google Chrome from Alphabet?:

So I think that it's developement as OpenSource project is save. By M$, I don't think so.

It will be disruptive in the short term if Google devs are immediately barred or immediately leave the project.

@LonM said in US Justice tries to cut Google Chrome from Alphabet?:

Divest chrome and that's not suddenly going to make the android, search or ads market even out to competitors.

There are two separate lawsuits: search and advertising. There ought to be coordination between the two really. But the advertising suit hasn't reached remedies stage yet.

Not going to happen, for this the Chromium project is too important, since even state institutions, industries and large companies depend on it. If the Google devs abandoned the project. is going to be intercepted at the same time. It is not the same as with any other FOSS. for this is too important and vital.
All other browser engines together don't reach even 10% of the market.

Andi's writeup

The search results provide extensive market analysis of the global chromium industry through 2024-2034, with several key insights:

Market Size and Growth:

Current market value of USD 23.91 billion in 2024[^3]

Projected to reach USD 40.84 billion by 2034, growing at 5.5% CAGR[^3]

Asia Pacific dominates with over 50% market share in 2023[^3]

Key Applications:

Metallurgy accounts for 92% of usage, primarily in stainless steel production[^3]

Chemical industry applications growing at 4.6% CAGR[^5]

Automotive sector uses chromium for corrosion resistance and decorative plating[^14]

Major Market Players:

Leading companies include Glencore, Samancor Chrome, Assmang Proprietary Limited[^3]

Market is partially consolidated with few major players dominating production[^19]

Recent Developments:

Indian government implemented export restrictions on chromium ores in June 2023[^3]

African Chrome Fields announced new smelting factory in Zimbabwe in May 2023[^3]

Yildirim Group acquired Elementis plc's chromium business for USD 170 million in November 2022[^3]

Primary Growth Drivers:

Rising demand from stainless steel industry[^3]

Increasing infrastructure development in Asia Pacific[^3]

Growing automotive and aerospace applications[^14]

[^3]: Precedence Research - Chromium Market Size To Hit USD 40.84 Billion By 2034

[^5]: Grand View Research - Chromium Market Size & Share Report

[^14]: Grand View Research - Automotive Chromium Market Size Report

[^19]: Mordor Intelligence - Chromium Market Size

@DoctorG i mean wireshark again just talks about network related data , i talk about data which browsers leak , which can be easily tested by tracking test websites , id websites , fingerprint websites , or tests which https://privacytests.org/ offers , but theres many websites which show which data leaks from the browser

Like here
Left is Brave standard Tracker blocker standard settings Fresh install
Right Side is Vivaldi , Fresh install , Tracker blocker Enabled
https://i.imgur.com/Cu4k3sC.png

mind you it says unique fingerprint for brave but it changes fingerprint each browser restart entirely.

Here on this website braves side is basicly empty ,
on vivaldis i needed to scroll out
https://i.imgur.com/1Zvqm8Z.png

Basicly check this
https://privacytests.org/

Like alone that WebRTC is enabled by default is a huge privacy nightmare for browsers because webRTC can circumvent proxys / vpns by leaking the local IP if you want something network related , and no i never found a website in the last 8 years which was broken with disabled web RTC.

@ybjrepnfr said in Floorp.:

floorp 12 beta, at least every public release so far, is struggling very badly. numerous cool features & functions from 11 missing

Sounds like when Opera went from Classic to their initial Chromium version! 😱

They're working at it to be more functional, its OK right now but they have even a smaller team than Vivaldi to fix things, at least someone is trying something different with the firefox base. HTH

bolded textNow using Netsurfer Prometheus Web Browser
This one is more updated for Win11 O/S. Added U Block Origin lite (mv3)? , I think thats the manifest 3??? to it , Installed it instead of the basic Ad blocker it has, this works so much better blocking ads and trackers on streaming sites, like I read in other comments posted in this forum. Now I can run Vivaldi on one screen with its built in ad blocker and U Block Origin Lite on Prometheus on another screen side by side to compare what each one does on websites. I think thats a good way to test it out. So use to using Vivaldi 😍 that other browsers seem quirky to use... 🤷🏻♂ HTH

@newscpq That’s right, this needs to be communicated—and it has been communicated. Please read the articles, I don’t feel like copying and pasting their contents to this post. But here a link to the explanation of ad attribution ☛ https://vivaldi.com/blog/the-great-tracker-blocker-conundrum-technical/#:~:text=is broadly called-,ad attribution,-. As such%2C the and https://vivaldi.com/blog/the-great-tracker-blocker-conundrum-technical/#:~:text=What does all this mean for you%3F

@lukcy13820 Totally agree. I'm constantly switching back and forth to and from vivaldi from arc. I really love auto-pip and looks like I can't live without it.

@200dollars, I use also the Zen Browser as second (Firefox fork), no problems importing Bookmarks and passwords, naturally no other things.

Hello, long time no see! It's been quite a while, and during that time I've managed to release several versions. Just yesterday, I released version 1.4, and it seems that my Second Sidebar for Firefox now provides more features than the sidebar in Vivaldi 😅. Prove me wrong!

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Github: https://github.com/aminought/firefox-second-sidebar

Vivaldi is still the most useful. Opera, Maxthon, Edge are trying to be Vivaldi but it doesn't work. Opera is getting Maxthon in appearance(This is my feeling). Firefox hasn't added any features in a long time and after the last incident it stopped being my second browser. Librewolf my second now. Many people talk about Brave, but it doesn't seem like a browser to be overrated. Tor is secure but slowww. Chrome, Yandex? No thanks. 🙂 I have tried many alternative browsers(Slimjet, Waterfox,Palemoon, Zen, Floorp...) but they don't replace Vivaldi. Because Vivaldi has been providing us with many features that are useful to us for a long time and no browser seems useful because we are used to using it. 😃

@Himmelssheriff57 said in Opera v Vivaldi:

Otherwise you may doubt if there's worth in incorporating an AI chatbot into a browser. But I've been using it for translations and summarizing. And I think, it did surprisingly well.

I have it as default on my phone and use the convenient Aria AI quite a bit, as I read and share a lot of articles and an on-the-fly summary of TLDR's can be useful for myself and some people I share with.

The other reason is its good reader view implementation.

It was default on my desktop before switching to Vivaldi. I still dip in from time time to time.

Someone else pointed out here that the Chinese connection is not nearly as scary as it seems.

But, anyway, just in terms of overall features I find it OK. Though, on desktop, it did introduce a few usability regressions that caused me to switch to Vivaldi, which was my alternate at the time. A major one was there switch to a horizontal instead of a vertical tab cycler. That's brain-dead as far as I'm concerned. In fact, I switched from Firefox to Opera mainly because Opera had a well-implemented vertical tab cycler at the time! Then they abandoned it! 😞

Article about the subject from Adguard blog:

"Mozilla deletes promise to 'never sell' your data. Has it really backed out on its word?"

https://adguard.com/en/blog/mozilla-deletes-promise-to-never-sell-your-data.html

@3dvs
you can use the software:

ClassyShark3xodus

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AppManager (dev. Muntashirakon)

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The software can be used for apk, apks files as well. Apks - AppManager.

For example:

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You can download the latest beta AppManager in the author's Telegram channel.

@Dr-Flay That's interesting. I've never heard about it!
Gonna try it when I'll have time

@npro Two moderators, Leo seems to put in more hours than I do. And there is an Asian-language moderator whom I don't really know.

But the last couple of days we've been dealing with a really persistent spammer, and it has been a lot more work than usual. 😞