@mossman

Said:

I note that it has "element zapper"...

It is the same "Element zapper" that is in uBO:

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The problem it has, unlike the “Element picker”, is that it is momentary as long as it does not reload the page. That is to say, it is useless.

"The element zapper can temporarily remove elements on a web page without creating new filters. The element picker can permanently remove elements on a web page by using it to create a network or cosmetic filter."

https://github.com/gorhill/ublock/wiki/Element-zapper

@earthginger, there are dozends of different AI out there for any type of tasks, you need one for summarize and explain, other need an AI for edit textes or to make music, edit images, videos, etc. all these with a very different quality which may serve to some users and not for others. So, apart of other reasons, it don't make sense to inbuild an stock AI in Vivaldi to follow the hype to inbuild an AI in everything, Its way more logical that the user search one of the AI which fits the best his needs and tasks.
Eg. I use as main search Andi since more than 2 years, which is the best for me (it outscored in an independent test ChatGPT, You, Perplexity and others). It also can summarize and explain in a very reliable way, apart with 100% privacy. Try it

https://andisearch.com/?query=%s

or take a look here and use one of the over 7000 existing different AI tools.

https://www.futuretools.io
https://www.futurepedia.io/ai-tools
https://dang.ai
https://huggingface.co/spaces

@CKempener here it's shown how to do it.
As @pafflick mentioned it uses command chains.

Interesting, I remember the release from 2015 to today, and mostly nothing changed. The sad thing, WWW is not only apple, Google and Facebook. There so such more and everything, but no one notices because of the big tech.

Thanks for this interview. The idea that individuals can contribute to the wider web is a very powerful message. I definitely understand the tech luddite angle, and I think that speaks to the power of collective technology like the web vs appified closed environments. If individuals can build something without needing corporate sponsorship or control (of course working with the individuals within these groups when possible), then that's the ideal way to coexist with technology.

@npro, Portmaster is an network manager and firewall, it permits to control and block, if needed, any in and outgoing traffic from any installed app. Customizable Filterlists include dynamic filterings.
Very easy and intuitive UI, very good default settings, so normally no need to change much, it's intalling and forget.
Optional an SPN service (paid), something like an VPN on steroids, inspired by the TOR network.
It's OpenSource, very recommended.

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https://safing.io/blog/2021/12/09/portmaster-vs-pi-hole/

Has it really been that long? That is crazy.

When humans become product , human rights = digital rights

@suyashbagade1, anyway, we are to help if you have questions, but the best is to experiment a little with the settings (you can restore all with a click if the result isn't to your like), and you'll see that Vivaldi offers a lot, but isn't more complicate as any other browser, no need to be an IT expert.

@luetage And how did I find the blog post? By googling the affiliate code. Not everyone's going to be reading update notes and blog posts.. in fact I'm sure the majority of users don't.

https://vivaldi.com/changelog-vivaldi-browser-6-4/

This is the first mention of direct match in the release notes... and it explains nothing. I'm assuming you mean the blog post about the new release, not the changelog?

@LonM You don't need to be clear, I understand, and was making the reference to Honey out of frustration and disgust. However, it was not disclosed in-browser, which is the problem.

Clicking the "learn more" on the search options page (why is it in 2 places with different help texts?) sends you to https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/navigation/what-is-direct-match/, which does a good job hiding what the feature does, only stated in one sentence near the end: "In some cases, clicking a suggestion might involve a third-party affiliate network, which could set cookies for correctly attributing revenue to the right party, like how all affiliate links work across the web."

This blog post is much more honest.

Also, the "direct match" moniker belies the true nature of the function, and is an anti-function in many cases as it directs to URLs we've never visited in history, and (by default) ontop of the URLs we were trying to visit (another issue with the revamped address bar).

In more recent versions of the browser, it seems even more advertising was added too: https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/795273 (starting point of confirmation and discussion)

These concerns are valid, and seem to keep piling up.

I don't think this is accurate. No matter how you change your settings on a regular window all logins remain intact including open tabs. Settings are irrelevant or not working at all. For instance mine is set to ''session only'' and everything is kept as is and I saw this concern here in multiple threads with no solution or meaningful answer from the community other than ''use private browsing instead '' which is not the same.

Regular Window
The default browsing mode is for your normal everyday use of the Vivaldi browser. In the regular window, unless you’ve changed settings, your browsing history, login and other cookies, open tabs, and more is kept around even after you exit the browser.

good viewpoints

@Pathduck said in The great tracker blocker conundrum:

@newscpq Then I guess you also remember how Opera had ads built-in to the browser UI. This was removed in 2005 - I've always assumed this was because Opera was able to make enough money by their mobile browser deals at the time.

http://web.archive.org/web/20051013082625/http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/windows/850/

They also took outside investment from vulture capitalists, something Vivaldi is unwilling to do, and for very good reasons.

Vivaldi is a company, it has employees that need to have liveable salaries. It's not an open-source project driven by volunteers spending their free time making a fully featured web browser.

Even Firefox, an open-source project is not able to sustain itself with volunteer efforts and donations. It needs to pay people. Mozilla gets most of its money from Google because Google tries to avoid getting fined for being a monopoly.

It's difficult finding a working business model in a market where everyone expects everything to be free all the time. Donations and store sales are not reliable income streams.

The big companies can afford to have a "free" browser because they have the money to do so and the browser is part of their data-collection and tracking effort. Brave tries to push crypto BS on its users to make money. Poor Opera is taken over by a Chinese corporation with deep pockets.

I was hoping that Vivaldi would get a nice income from their in-car browser deals, but I'm not sure how much money if any will be coming from there.

I suspect Vivaldi still mostly lives from Jon's pockets and that's the sad truth about it. One day this will run dry and Vivaldi will have to find some way of sustaining itself so the employees can have food on the table and not go look for other jobs.

@Pathduck

no amigo Vivaldi wont dry run cuz its better than most browsers... yes Opera i used first but when chineze take over mr.Zhou Yahui i switch... firefox keeps solid and gived thunderbird and k-9mail apps for free... thats huge.. and they dont leak... Brave just a better copy chrome but they looks like make stuff all Brave.. brave search, brave browser, nothin special just better chronicums...
Samsung Browser oh man NEVER ... i got galaxy a53 5g what this scumsung do its just shameless...
most of all Vivaldi come with email add cloud service and vivaldi goes beyond all... 🙂
**FOSS NEVER DRY **

@fred8615 wonderful! It's working. Thanks for the suggestion!

as blogger, vivaldi totally saved so much time compared to other web browser

I think "Allow ads from our partners" option should be a separate option on the root Privacy page, not hidden in the list of ~40 ad blocking sources.

@brucelawson I just finished listening to this. It's great! Thank you for sharing.

hey the cozy one is my old setup!!!

@brucelawson Thanks 🙂