Solved Rearrange Mail Accounts in list
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@kelleychambers Yes. Drag and drop. Some of the fussiest and most frustrating code to implement.
You have, here, about 20 or so developers (3 on the mail side - used to be just 2), most of whom come from developing one of the first browsers in the world (Opera) and one of the most successful browsers, with integrated email, ever to exist. So, yeah, as this is an employee-owned company, these are some of the most experience developers ever, and they are putting revolutionary function into public use, the thing to do would be to "kick them to the curb."
Consider this a family pizza joint who failed, inexplicably, to adopt the business patterns of Papa John's or Pizza Hut. It's not a huge corporation with unlimited resources, trying to serve the broad middle of human society. It's a niche company making a "browser for our friends." And they are more interactive with their customer base and more focused on flexibility, innovation and serving individual customer needs than any other browser maker. When they once again (following the debacle of the Opera buy-out) have two or three hundred developers in harness, niggling problems like repositioning account names will be more trivial.
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I swear I wasn't going to keep arm wrestling with you so this will be my last post on this topic.
Opera has absolutely had it's fair share of branding issues not to mention product problems in the course of the last 25 years. Maybe not that long ago but I'm not far off. I remember them so far back when they tried to, and miserably failed, to CHARGE for their browser. SO, yes, I've followed both Opera and Vivaldi for a very long time.
I am not referring to anyone person, company or product in any specific way, especially a nasty pizza joint like Papa John's, but what I am referencing is the sheer amount of time it takes them to come out with something that should absolutely BLOW a user away... not leaving them thinking, "What in the hell did I just down load????". Six years, whether it is two or twenty developers, is a long bloody time. Further, to say they are making something "REVOLUTIONARY" is hardly the right nor appropriate adjective for this product. I'm pretty sure Steve Jobs would have gotten a belly driven laugh at that. It is, however, a browser with semi-PWA capability (and I use SEMI lightly), with a PIM and not a feature rich one at that. Aside from PWA, it's nothing new! Revolutionary was the iPhone and the iPad. Revolutionary was dumping tea into the Boston Harbor. These are things that changed the world. Don't pretend that because it's an employee-owned company (again, not revolutionary) that it's more than what it really is.
I know as a mod you believe it to be all that, a bag of chips AND A diet coke. But it's not. To be honest, I sincerely doubt it ever will be. There are way too many truly progressive brains out there developing brand NEW, cutting-edge technological advances... and might I add at a hell of a lot faster rate than six years!!!! No one is going to give two shits about a has been browser with a few rudimentary tech pieces baked in... and this is AFTER they get their bloody thumbs out of their proverbial asses and show it that it can be one's daily driver!
Sorry. Not impressed. I was at one time and after bantering back and forth with you making excuses left and right, I'm even less now.
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@kelleychambers You're free to be unimpressed. You don't have to like what Vivaldi users like.
I happen to personally know many of the personnel involved, I have followed the progress of the project from Jan. 2015, physically visited with about half the team in person, and test the product and confab with the devs behind the scenes (not just mod in the forum). So I get my impressions from close personal contact.
And I get my expectations from what I need daily to use it to pursue my profession. Clearly, your expectations are different and that's fine. Neither your opinions nor mine represent absolute, immutable values. So you do you, and Vivaldi will do Vivaldi. And that's kewl. Win-win.
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@kelleychambers Mine are ordered: aimwell.org, ntlworld.com, vivaldi.net. That looks like alphabetical order to me.
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@Ayespy said in Rearrange Mail Accounts in list:
It's alphabetical per username of the account.
I also thought it was by order of adding accounts for the longest time and after reading this I thought "Eureka, now I can easily get my two offline accounts to the bottom of the list" by just renaming the usernames to "y" and "z", respectively sucht that they get my wildente@.... account. But they stay right up there also after restarting Vivaldi.
I figure that if there IS some sort of sorting algorithm by user name, maybe it's not that easy to change it to free sorting. But with my very limited programming experience I think it should be fairly straightforward to change the sorting parameter from username to account name (account naming was added not too early in the development process)
Is there a feature wish / bug report for this?
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Vote for Sort Email Account Order.
It currently has only 12 votes, so apparently most users don't care much.
I just upvoted it, but it makes no difference to me. I just use the received view, where all new emails arrive from the accounts that are actively in use.
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@luminouslemon said in
Sort email account order 
:This is a deal breaker for me.
@stormhike said in
Sort email account order :Totally agree.
I'm going back to Thunderbird until something like this is implemented. Shame because the mail looks good in Vivaldi, and I think Vivaldi is a great browser. -
Sort for Accounts would be nice
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@Hadden89 "would be nice". Well, it's a must for someone with many email accounts that want to have it optimized.
Frankly I am stunned that it's not yet implemented.
I'm not that kind of guy that is hanging around on forums and I bet that most does not, therefore the Vivaldi team doesn't get to know how many actually are lacking this "feature". I am sure there are many that does.
Many move to the previous or other mail clients because of this. I just tried it out, like it. But if this doesn't get implemented in the near future I'll stick with Apple Mail where I also can create my own folders and move important (not email address specific) mails to them that I want to be able to read whenever I want. For instance I have a folder named "guitar" with reciepts of guitar parts I bought since 1996 stored in that folder. I have loads of different folders made simular to the guitar reciept folder. Very handy.
Yes I like to organize manually to have complete control over my stored emails. Done this since I entered internet in 1989. And no, it does not work to search for the word guitar as most of the emails with bought parts has not the work guitar in them, so I sort them manually when they're received. -
@Metamatic I kind of agree that is a "must".
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There is a sorting algorithm, and the sorting is on the only thing a user can not control. The sorting is alphabetically on MAIL ADDRESS!
Go figure. Selecting any other sort criteria would have been better.
I'm really impressed by the features and functionalities of the Vivaldi browser and mail client. All honor to the developers!
But this little "flunk" is really annoying.
I realize that the mail address is the only rasonable mandatory data to sort on as both sender name and account name are optional in the config.
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@EerVideONet
Hi, the developer don't read the forum but they check the feature requests.
I add my vote and we are now on 26 votes, even I don't really need it with 5 accounts.Cheers, mib
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I'm only able to have my 8 most important accounts in Vivaldi, the rest are still left in Outlook. Kind of annoying.
Not impossible to live with, the rest of Vivaldi makes it worth it, but it is a daily annoyance!
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@EerVideONet said in
Sort email account order :I'm only able to have my 8 most important accounts in Vivaldi, the rest are still left in Outlook.
While I fully understand that you want to rearrange the account order - so do I - how does this relate to not being able to have some of your accounts in Vivaldi?
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@WildEnte Ability is a personal thing
The important accounts in themselves do have a priority order to me, as it is now I cannot put them in priority order.
It is also critical to keep track of from which account the mail I'm handling belongs.
If I to that should add some ten more accounts that I need to have but do not handle more than occasionally, "accidents" would be hard to avoid.
I'm getting used to having the informational mail accounts in a separate client. It actually a practical solution.
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@EerVideONet ah. OK that is a usecase I didn't think of (and I'd hazard the guess that it is an unusual one). Anyway, apart from separation of context via sorting order, maybe you could make user profiles work to your advantage. Working with and switching between many different accounts has the inherent risk of drafting a new email using the "wrong" email address and mixing contacts (which Vivaldi has yet to improve on)
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I believe the usecase is fairly common. Handling different aspects of support for a handful of systems at a small software company.
The concept of Vivaldi is perfect for this. Stay in one window and just switch tabs between mail, teams-metings, editor, documents etc.
The User profile tip was good, I hadn't thought about that, thank you! It makes it possible to stay in Vivaldi by switching between one "Important" user and one "Informational".
Unfortunately I cannot have one user for each important mail account as I need to see the mail flow continously.
But one cannot get everything and at least you helped me find a way to ditch Outlook! -
@Metamatic said in
Sort email account order :therefore the Vivaldi team doesn't get to know how many actually are lacking this "feature".
True, but they can gauge the support for a feature by looking at the number of votes.
With 36 votes after three years, this one is significant, but still way down the list of about 5,000 requests.
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@kelleychambers Hey I've been using Opera since the beginning ( or at least version 3 I think ). Opera was light-weight and an all-in-one package. It was the first browser to introduce tabs, speed dial, built-in spell check, ad blockers, and heaps more. It was the most innovative browser out there. It wasn't about marketing and becoming a huge browser, it was about being a browser that did the job.
The Vivaldi we have today comes from the same minds, and has the same mindset. The community is huge, and the developers listen. If enough people want something changed or added, it will happen. And because the email client is built into the browser, it means the same thing in regards to changes.
I nearly gave up waiting for the email client to be released, and when it did I used it for a short while then went back to Thunderbird, because there were many features I needed that weren't available ... yet.
Eventually the issues were ironed out and the features like drag and dropping email were added.
This all comes from the community asking for features, or pointing out issues.So I'm back again, using the built in email client. And I'm here today, wondering about the same thing as you. How to set the order of email accounts. Also disappointed that there is no way, but I know that it will eventually be done, and I feel that the email client as-is does a better job than any other browser-email client combo!
BTW you can up the chances of this being a thing here :
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I feel like I'm a bit late to the party, but while I only have a few accounts under "All accounts", I'm surprised that this is still a thing we can't adjust.
The drag & drop works easily enough in the panel with the ctrl drag thing, so why can't that happen for the accounts?
