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Ayespy

I'm being reasonable here. It shouldn't take four years to add a mail client.

Yeah, given the scope of the task and the size of the mail team, it should. The client is being written from scratch by a team that started out as just one guy. It's a much more complicated project than a browser.

becm

@ayespy said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:

It's a much more complicated project than a browser.

Only when starting both projects on an existing browser platform.

LonM

The latest snapshots have stuff in them showing progress is being made on the RSS reader., though it still shows no indication of when it will be ready:

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ROTFL

@LonM But IMO this should be retagged as IN PROGRESS
@Pesala What do You think?...

Pesala

@ROTFL Maybe. It seems to be moving forward.

ghpy

Three more months passed and getting closer to three years since 1.0.
Sometimes I wonder whether Otter will be quicker in offering a browser cum mail client.

LonM

@ghpy from what I've seen in some recent snapshots, there is lots of work being done internally in getting the rss client ready.

Folgore101

@LonM said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:

@ghpy from what I've seen in some recent snapshots, there is lots of work being done internally in getting the rss client ready.

So soon we can test the RSS reader?

luetage

@Folgore101 I wouldn't hold my breath for it. But soon is definitely true… The email client itself has been said to come soon for the last 3 years. So yeah, soon I suppose it is.

Folgore101

@luetage For M3 it's 4 years that i wait and from what i read i think i'll have to wait a lot longer.
The RSS reader is not fundamental but allows me to remove an extension and to play with this new feature, so that it is welcome.
If then the Calendar arrives shortly i am very curious to test it because, if it does what i have in mind, i could convince the boss to make Vivaldi the main browser on PCs.

LonM

@Folgore101 I didn't want to get anyone's hopes too high. The level of "things" I've seen is on par with what I've seen with mail.

Namely it's left overs that the devs probably left in the public snapshots by accident.

That doesn't mean we'll get it very soon, but progress is being made.

Folgore101

@LonM No problem, with Vivaldi one must also know how to wait.
The expectation of pleasure is itself a pleasure. (Gotthold Ephraim Lessing)

kahukura

"A good Hunter can wait."

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kahukura

@ROTFL It will be well, be confident. A half baked mail client would not be a good reputation.

luetage

@kahukura I admire your patience, but it's also bad for reputation to promise an email client in the prerelease version and then take years to deliver on it. I think we can agree on that. I have said it before, but in my opinion an opt-in beta version of the client should have been released years ago. The issue is that M3 is being released with M2 users in mind (who clearly want an email-client in the browser), but this target user base is forced to rely on an outdated email client at the moment. Many will already have moved on and switched to another solution by the time M3 comes out. Switching clients is a pain and I wonder how many are going to have the will to switch yet again.

Folgore101

@luetage I still use M2 and i agree that it has been too long since the announcement of M3 and many users will be passed to other mail clients.
Perhaps the possibility to test it in Snapshots, maybe activating it from vivaldi://experiments/, would keep the interest alive but it could also be counterproductive if the version of M3 was uneven.
Unfortunately, there are few developers and making a client email does not have to be easy.

kahukura

@luetage Even if the client is released in a preproduction state the primary aim would not be to convince M2 users using it as early adopters. All it does is to blame every single data loss (and we know that people tend to use beta SW productive) and nothing more. However I see the point that it is presently Vaporware just like the famous Duke Nukem.

jon

@kahukura M3 is on the way. There is still work to be done before it is ready to be shared, but we get closer each day. Clearly we are eager to get it out to you, but not before we have fixed a few more bugs and added a bit more functionality. It is getting closer...

kahukura

@jon I hear progress is coming and am optimistic that we get an excellent mail client WIR. Good things take time, this is what I was trying to share with the impatiently waiting.