Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home
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@Catweazle said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:
[T]here is everyone present in a forum from the extreme right to the extreme left and debates for this reason are rarely carried out in a civilized and cultured way.
No, that's not quite it. The problem isn't extreme views; much of what's mainstream today was once on the extreme fringe of politics. Simply holding an extreme political view doesn't make you a bad person, it doesn't make you impolite, and it doesn't make you incapable of being civil with people who have opposing viewpoints. It just means you reject the political ideals of your time.
The problem is much less where someone is on the political spectrum, and much more that some people can't play nice with those who have opposing viewpoints. Some people see disagreeing with them as an attack on them, and react to that "attack". It's not just in politics, but politics does seem to attract those types!
@ingolftopf said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:
What "nuts" are you always talking about here?
That largely answers your question.
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That's cool, but when will hardware accelerated video work on Linux?
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@Panino Works here on Manjaro Cinnamon...
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@ingolftopf said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:
Why should this not be possible?
That's more a question for @TheQuantumAlpha , he's the one who accuses Mastodon of severe political bias. However, I have read some articles that suggest he's right.
@luetage said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:
Vivaldi makes it pretty clear in their code of conduct and in the server rules featured on Vivaldi Social what kind of content is welcome and what you can forget about.
A solution from the forums may also work: Discourage political talk altogether! I'm inclined to say: Discourage it more strongly than it's discouraged on the forums, send a clear message that politics is not welcome on Vivaldi Social.
That discouragement could be softened or removed later, that will always remain an option. But for the time being: Strongly discouraging political talk may be a good way to avoid any appearance of political bias, and keep Vivaldi Social from (rightly or wrongly) being seen as just Biased Big Tech 2.0.
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@Eggcorn said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:
That largely answers your question.
I don't think so.
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@Panino said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:
That's cool, but when will hardware accelerated video work on Linux?
Also works here on 'Debian'.
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@Ayespy I know... More research needed.
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There are people writing on the social.vivaldi.net Masodon instance who have not written anything on the forum and are having a harder time with it there.
Many also come from Twitter and are used to it from there.
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It would be nice if the share button came.
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@ingolftopf , no problem with Vivaldi
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@shifte VFM has a link button copying the direct link to the post to the clipboard.
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@luetage
I know link button, of course. ^^
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@shifte That should be doable lol.
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@luetage
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@shifte Make a feature request for it, better sooner than later. At the moment the community platform developers are probably still focused on Vivaldi Social.
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@ingolftopf I would have preferred that Vivaldi don't show any political views or preferences.
No matter which side.
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@Eggcorn I agree, Vivaldi should not have opened a mastodon instance, and they should not throw the ball in the social media court.
Mastodon is mostly far left, gab is mostly far right.
Truth social is what the heck it is.I don't want extremes! I don't want to say something that will get me dogpiled and banned cause I had a different opinion!
By joining mastodon, it's like if Vivaldi picked a side...
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@ingolftopf said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:
I don't understand.
Why should this not be possible?If you disagree with widespread ideologies on Mastodon (happens on other sheltered platforms too), you shall not show it, or you may get reprimanded, and become victim of pile up to the point you eventually get suspended for causing disruption.
Creator of mastodon took code from ActivityPub/GNU Social without attribution because he didn't like that anyone could use it without agreeing to Code of Conducts. Pleroma is superior to Mastodon in technical aspects, but no one talks about it because it's not ran by the "right" people
If a group of people say pigs can fly, I cannot mostly disagree cause the server may have a "no flying pig disbelief" rule, so I must consent to it. If I do, other servers may mute you or suspend your entire instance, and get name called. Therefore the server owner that you're logged in may suspend you .
If someone say drinking coffee is ineffective, and I disagree as it has been proven since beginning of times, and we engage into a discussion, I don't want the person thinking that coffee is ineffective to have any consequences, or be suspended and name called for disinformation or something alike.
I want to have discussion, although sometimes heated, to see both side of the aisle, without repercussions.
Mastodon does mostly not allow such kind of discussion, it is mostly a "safe space" for certain kinds of ideas.