Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home

treego

@Havokdan said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:

No Fake News? Good choice vivaldi.

LOL

Ayespy

@treego Your posts containing and linking to false and inflammatory information have been deleted. It is a violation of Vivaldi community Code of conduct to post content likely to offend people based on race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, or political views.

Continued violation of the Code of conduct can result in a temporary or permanent ban.

There are hundreds of places where one can peddle conspiracy claptrap, but the Vivaldi community is not one of them nor, it would seem, are most Mastodon servers (there are some Mastodon servers that welcome such content, but most of the Mastodon fediverse has walled them off.)

treego

@Ayespy What was false or inflammatory? I find the banning of free speech to be inflammatory, honestly. Too bad that Vivaldi has aligned itself with this company.

Don't you find it ironic that Big Tech companies like Facebook and Twitter accept that link with no issues? Gab accepts the link, but they accept anything short of porn or threats of violence/murder.

I thought Mastodon was supposed to be a way of escaping Big Tech control.

Crimsonshade

I'm already a part of Mastodon (like you, I had been curious about it for a while, but only recently made the plunge), so unfortunately this comes a little late for me. But I applaud Vivaldi for taking this step

the1avi

Since I already have a Mastodon account I assume there's no sense in creating another one on vivaldi.social. Correct?

Ayespy

@treego It is a violation of Vivaldi community Code of conduct to post content likely to offend people based on race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, or political views.

You posted content calculated to offend, and which other users did, in fact, find offensive.

I don't find it ironic in the least that a small tech community focused on courtesy and good will has rules against content that "Big Tech" permits.

By joining and posting here, you consent to our terms of use and code of conduct.

the1avi

@crimsonshade: you can migrate your account from one server to another. It'll move your followers, etc. but not your posts.

treego

@Ayespy I am talking about Mastodon. I wasn't calculating anything by the way ... good grief! \

I find your tone less than courteous or of good will, also.

Ayespy

@treego The rules of various Mastadon servers are adopted by their administrators. There are literally thousands of Mastadon servers, and probably no two have identical rules. Mastadon is not a company. It's a bunch of loosely federated groups of people who use the same server software and the same protocols to associate their content. SO - the server where you attempted to post your content had rules against it, and did not accept it. If you posted it to Gab, you posted it to - what? Mastadon servers under Gab's control. So, yeah, Mastadon is a fraction the size of Twitter, for all that it's a global federation, but size is not the determinant. Individual Mastadon communities decide what to accept or not accept on their servers.

treego

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greybeard

I have seen no mention of Security at Mastodon as yet.
To all users please be aware there are differences with Mastodon (not that the platform is insecure but the way it works is different than what you might expect) especially with what they refer to as DMs.
Should you mention others in your DM (with their @mastodonName) to a Friend/Colleague all those others will get the DM as if they'd been Cc'd.
There is an excellent podcast (Smashing Security) https://grahamcluley.com/smashing-security-podcast-297/.
They do a much better job of explaining this than I. There is also a post on his blog at (https://grahamcluley.com/)

Stay safe out there my friends.

Ayespy

@greybeard Good stuff to be aware of.

greybeard

@jon And all Vivaldi users, welcome to Mastodon.
https://mastodon.social/@grey_beard

Have been following an unofficial Vivaldi instance since I joined. Then joined again through Vivaldi. It seems all the new items I've added for V are in both. Should I delete one account?

Ayespy

@greybeard Not sure how that works. Mastodon has specific instructions about associating servers, and even about multiple accounts. Their help pages would probably have more info on this than Vivaldi mods would.

Tams80

Sounds like a load of jargon to me, for what is essentially a decentralised chat service.

And in that way, it's pretty much Discord but run on private servers. Which makes it... pretty much IRC. Gotta love all these attempts to make the old look new and innovative.

It's therefore really not comparable to Twitter at all, as groups can just close themselves off. The main point of Twatter, sorry, Twitter is to publicly make a clown of yourself, sorry, boast to the entire userbase.

Thankfully, this is all optional. You won't be finding me on your nub, node, or whatever Mastodon call their instances.

I do think you shouldn't be wasting time on it though. There are the forums, and we could do with some touch-friendly UI options on the desktop versions of the browser rather than... this.

ingolftopf

@Ayespy
"Banning" a long-time user, with many posts, is never nice and is never done lightly here.

Various options are exhausted beforehand, personal messages, the request to change the post.
There was also a public notice here.
Since most posts are deleted, certainly for good reason, it can only be guessed at.

"Gab" is a clearly right-wing Mastodon instance, which is blocked from almost all other Mastodon instances, for this reason.

ingolftopf

There is also a help page:
https://help.vivaldi.com/services/social/getting-started-with-vivaldi-social/

ingolftopf

@the1avi said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:

Since I already have a Mastodon account I assume there's no sense in creating another one on vivaldi.social. Correct?

You can also have multiple accounts on Mastodon.
You would be supporting Vivaldi

Havokdan

How do I configure a client/application for android to use?

ingolftopf

@Havokdan
First create an account on the browser page, this also works with the Vivaldi.net account, then add it to 'Tusky' (F-Droid), for example.