Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home

[ingolftopf]

There is already a lot of life on social.vivaldi.net and the press is already writing.

I just can't find a page where you can see the number of participants in the Vivaldi Mastodon instance.
Does that not exist (yet?)?
There is such a page for many instances

[luetage]

@greybeard You can merge the accounts, see ☛ https://blog.rossgrady.org/migrating-merging-mastodon-accounts/

[luetage]

@ingolftopf By default vanilla Mastodon (pretty much what Vivaldi is using right now), displays the count of active users on its home page. But this is only visible when you are logged out. And it’s not a live count, the server takes some time to update the stat.

[luetage]

@Havokdan The instance works well in the Vivaldi for Android browser. Personally I don’t see a point in installing an app. Anyway, I would wait a few days, from what I could gather users run into issues trying to get social.vivaldi.net to run in their clients, because Vivaldi uses a different login mechanism. You have to first log in on your phone’s browser, then try to make it happen on your client. I believe the team is looking into making this more seamless.

[RiveDroite]

I usually use Tusky for Mastodon and noticed that I can't use the app for social.vivaldi.net, so have been using it in Vivaldi instead and surprisingly the browser performance is pretty great! I don't miss the app at all.

[Havokdan]

@luetage tusky worked, I tried some clients at random, out of the 3 I tested, only tusky worked, I typed in the vivaldi instance, it opened the login page of the vivaldi website and it was ok, at least that's what it looks like, it's my first time in mastodon apps. And the sidebar of vivaldi browser? Do you have a mobile version?

[luetage]

@Havokdan You can download the mobile version from the play store ☛ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vivaldi.browser&gl=US or install it directly ☛ https://vivaldi.com/android/

[Havokdan]

@luetage said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:

@Havokdan You can download the mobile version from the play store ☛ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vivaldi.browser&gl=US or install it directly ☛ https://vivaldi.com/android/

Sorry, I'm using the google translator to speak here, when I referred to the mobile version, I was referring to the website of the social network of Vivaldi to place as an item in the sidebar of the browser, which I use mobile versions of the sites to place there.

[luetage]

@Havokdan Ahh, sorry. Yes, I’m using the mobile version of Vivaldi Social as webpanel as well. It works fine in my opinion. All webpanels load mobile versions of web pages by default.

[Havokdan]

@luetage I wanted the url to put here in my Vivaldi browser or when I put the normal url as a webpanel it goes to the mobile version automatically?

[luetage]

@Havokdan You can either use the »add webpanel button« in the panel and input the URL there, or alternatively open the instance as webpage, right‐click and select »add page as webpanel«. Both will open the instance in a webpanel with mobile view by default. You can right‐click the webpanel to check this. It will give you the option to show the desktop version when you are on the mobile version and vice versa.

[Eggcorn]

@TheQuantumAlpha I won't go that far, but I fear this opens up a can of worms.

For example: Will Vivaldi Social federate with the more controversial Mastodon instances, such as Gab and Truth Social? If it doesn't: It will look like Vivaldi's for censorship of reasonable and moderate political views. If it does: Gab is a free speech instance, and the price of free speech is that people are free to spew verbal diarrhea.

Perhaps allow the user to choose what instances he wants to see, that could help soften the can of worms.

[luetage]

@Eggcorn Truth Social just uses Mastodon code (which they tried to hide initially), it isn’t federating with anything. And you can read more about Gab here ☛ https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2019/07/statement-on-gabs-fork-of-mastodon/

If you want that kind of content, Vivaldi Social is not for you.

[Eggcorn]

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[DoctorG]

JoinMastodon lists vivaldi.social on their page

[Eggcorn]

@luetage I've already read that article you linked to, and I don't really agree it makes a good case.

There is an intelligent non-political case to be made for a Mastodon instance not federating with Gab and I made that case in my prior comment. The price of free speech is that people are free to say terrible things. So if you federate with Gab, you see those terrible things.

If the article had said that, I'd have respected it. But it didn't. The article got political in what I felt was an ugly way. Accusations of racism don't advance reason in most cases.

The existence of that article only reinforces my point: People won't view the decision to federate with Gab, or not, in practical non-political terms. I think that makes Vivaldi's starting a Mastodon instance vulnerable to criticism.

[DoctorG]

@Eggcorn US poltics content? Do me a favour, post in Chit Chat forum.

[luetage]

@Eggcorn It’s political nuts all around, no matter the ideology. Vivaldi makes it pretty clear in their code of conduct and in the server rules featured on Vivaldi Social what kind of content is welcome and what you can forget about. Stick to the rules and you won’t run into issues. If you can live with that, good, if not you have a problem, because you agreed to these rules when creating a Vivaldi account. No point in being salty about it now.

[ingolftopf]

@DoctorG
Thank you for the link.

[ingolftopf]

@DoctorG
Good idea, let's see