Customizable search engines
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@viqsi said in Customizable search engines:
That tag isn't on this thread anymore
That is because the new better tag
in-progressis there instead.
As for the rest:
@nomadic said in support more search engines into vivaldi search engine list:
@abdolrezaIt existed as a feature on Desktop before the Android version was even created, so it is likely that it has always been a planned feature. They likely limited it to a set few search engines by default as a temporary fix as they worked to develop a better solution.
It will definitely take more than half an hour to code as it involves lots of pieces. There needs to be a settings page, a way to automatically add a search engine from a search box, a way to sync it with the Desktop version, and countless other changes in other places like the address bar. This also ignores all the testing that needs to be done to make sure it works correctly. All of which adds up to much more than half an hour...
So maybe give the devs a bit of a break. We know they want to add this feature, but we don't know what problems could be blocking its implementation or if they just haven't gotten to it yet given other priorities. -
@nomadic You're talking mostly about a shiny all-bells-and-whistles variant. Unless Chrome on Android is crippled beyond measurable sanity, there is nothing standing in the way w/r/t just having a place where folks can type in their own search URLs with substitution patterns like we used to have to do it way back when. Even if Chrome is that badly broken, it's possible to implement that in a simple Javascript in about an hour. Hell, I've done as much before, so as to hack search prefixes into browsers that didn't support them. Sync is a potential complication, but messing with the address bar? Come on. Bookmarklets have been capable of doing that and more for literally two decades.
I'd be much more willing to be patient if 1) they were swamped with bugfixing and lacking time to implement stuff that's been done before, 2) weren't introducing Brand New Features that nobody else has done (which arguably takes even more developmental effort - and yes, 5.0's recent release and additions is a large part of what prompts my renewed concern), or 3) this wasn't exactly the sort of "you use Our Curated Choices AND NOBODY ELSE" nonsense that ostensibly prompted JvT's departure from Opera and the start of the Vivaldi project in the first place. But none of those are the case. The only alternative case I can think of is that they just don't see it as a priority, and in light of issue #3 above, that's deeply concerning. It's not enough to start screaming "OMG VIVALDI IS DOOMED" from the hills or anything absurd like that... but it's a red flag.
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@ryonez agreed, I left opera for vivaldi when opera removed custom search only to find the feature only available on the desktop. In this world of censorship, search choice is more than just a small feature.
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@nomadic Chrome/Chromium natively supports using custom search engines. Any website that conforms to the OpenSearch format is automatically added to the list of search engines in settings when it is visited. I wonder why Vivaldi has left out this part of Chromium? No major developmental efforts from the Vivaldi team needed when the feature can be borrowed easily from Chromium source code. Although it is not a complete solution (with sync, custom url etc), it is well enough for some of us, including me.
I hope the developers have a good reason for not implementing such a basic Chromium feature. One of those reasons could be that allowing us to use custom search engines could hurt their partnership with other companies who pay Vivaldi to have their search engines included in their list.
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@mamaforrestcritter But what are you all on about?
Opera on Mobile can have more search engines. -
I left opera because they removed the custom search utility in their mobile application
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it would be so nice to have
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Please consider this request in next development: in my opinion is one of the most important features missing in Vivaldi for Android
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Please +1 This feature is sorely missed, www.qwant.com is what I need, but not possible apart from homepage!!
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Dear Vivaldi, can you just please add the function to add custom search engine like in your desktop version. we will be really pleased to see it been implemented thank you
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@parksy81 said in Customizable search engines:
Please +1 This feature is sorely missed, www.qwant.com is what I need, but not possible apart from homepage!!
I see the feature is in progress. I'm on the same boat, using Qwant on desktop but still with DuckDuckGo on Android. Shame Qwant was removed as a search engine from Vivaldi.
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It's pretty ridiculous this isn't been implemented yet. At the very least keep up with new search engines. Brave Search should be an option.
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I also suggest www.qwant.com, but also www.mojeek.de/www.mojeek.com to get atleast searchengine that has its own searching technologie.
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@mamaforrestcritter Opera can have custom search engines pal.
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@techboydexe said in Customizable search engines:
But what are you all on about?
Opera on Mobile can have more search engines.Presumably: Opera Mobile removed the ability to add search-engines, then reserved course and put the ability back.
Opera Desktop did that with a bunch of features: Opera 15 didn't even have bookmarks, let alone the features and customizability that made Opera Opera! Lots of people were unhappy, even Opera's founder left the company and made Vivaldi.
Opera somewhat backtracked. Somewhat! The new Opera doesn't have the features and customizability of the Opera 12, or even Vivaldi. But it's a lot better than Opera 15 and Chrome.
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@eggcorn said in Customizable search engines:
even Opera's founder left the company and made Vivaldi.
And also took (luckily) some others devs of O12 desktop team with him
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@eggcorn Jon did leave Opera over changes in philosophy brought by investors who had gained control of the company. But he left in 2011, and Opera released Opera15 in 2013. My understanding of the main reasons Jon left were that the investors insisted on "increasing profits" by doing less with fewer staff (Jon actually wanted to hire MORE staff to keep the Presto engine competitive, and the Board wanted to cut costs).
@Hadden89 A lot of former Opera developers did join the Vivaldi team - but mostly after Opera let them go. From 2013 to 2016, Opera engaged in a wholesale reduction of staff, some of whom found a home at Vivaldi. Jon did not really "take staff with him." He just formed an alternative community to replace the one (MyOpera) that Opera jettisoned. It was not until Opera slashed features and expressed no will to add them back, after the release of Opera15, that Jon sought to develop Vivaldi.
It's perhaps not that big a deal, but we should try to be clear on the history.
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@techboydexe
I had opera when they removed that utility. Maybe they back tracked and reinstated it as others here have mentioned....pal...no backtracking for me, done with opera. -
Any progress?
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How can I remove and edit the search engines on Android?
