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@Deniel We understand. But this is how Jon has managed his businesses for 25 years or more, and it works for him and his users. There is a plan. But it is not tied to a clock or a calendar. It is tied to a sequence of actions and the realization of progress.
I get the anxiety and disappointment. Sooner or later, though, the team always delivers. And in the meantime, there aren't a lot of false and missed announcements that something will be done on this and this date, and no time and grief spent explaining how or why a deadline was missed. We who have been enjoying what his teams produce since the late 90's are on board with the projected release date always being "when it's ready."
I'm sure you run your businesses differently, and that's your choice. But this works for the world of Vivaldi.
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Maybe it's a stupid thought, but I have a question whether the Vivaldi version for Windows phone was created ? And if so, I know perfectly well that the mobile system from Microsoft is already dead, but if it could be released in a form similar to Vivaldi's version 1.0 for Windows XP and Vista ? It would be a nice gesture for some users, but this year they will say goodbye to their favorite mobile platform and release it at least in a preview version with some features (if the port for this system was created). In my eyes it wouldn't be a waste of time (because some of us are waiting for Vivaldi mobile from 2017 anyway ), but finishing the project and, as I wrote earlier, a nice gesture for users who wanted to have vivaldi mobile on their phones.
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@MattSolo45 To my knowledge, no Windows phone version was created. I'm not sure it would actually be possible.
Only Android is being worked on at the moment, about 10% of the team is dedicated to it I believe, and there simply are no resources to start on another platform as far as I can tell. It would seem when Android is essentially stable, the next project (which will be likely to take longer) will probably be iOS (which could require some new hires). By the time that is done, I wonder if there will still be any support at all for Windows phone. Certainly, I know that the only Windows phone I possess (Blackjack II) is about 15 years old, and stopped being supported long, long ago. If the work of two people can be dedicated to the support of a million users, or a hundred thousand users, I wonder if it would be sensible to dedicate that same work to support for fifty users.
To be sure, gestures are nice. I think it also makes sense to consider the economy of the gesture.
A complicating aspect to consider when thinking of such a project, is that Windows phones can only download apps from the Windows store, Vivaldi is based on Chromium - and there is no Chrome or Chromium for Windows phone. It was never adapted to that system. So...
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In the background is a shame that Windowsphone has ceased to exist. In my opinion it was an excellent and safe phoneOS, but it is true that it is a somewhat useless effort to create a product for an OS that no longer exists, especially for a team with limited resources.
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@Catweazle And especially when there's no Chromium engine for Windows phone.
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@Ayespy said in Mobile Browser Version:
@Catweazle And especially when there's no Chromium engine for Windows phone.
http://www.techbae.com/google-chrome-for-windows-phone-free-download/
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@Catweazle I really doubt that. read that comment: "it-s not chrome browser its just google search"
The link points to
https://www.microsoft.com/en-in/p/google/9wzdncrfhx3w?activetab=pivot:regionofsystemrequirementstab
and infact it's just an app for google search
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My point was that I didn't want to create for this system from the beginning, just if there was at least a prototype version of Vivaldi for this platform to release it. Now we know that it didn't exist, so there's no point in going into the subject for obvious reasons.
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@sdtbluethink I've seen nothing indicating that would be the case - at least at this stage.
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So, in short. Vivaldi mobile on start (may not have extensions) and on top of that it will certainly not have a blocker ads. In the first case I hope it will appear, because it would be a great pity for the user, but in the case of blocking the ads Vivaldi does damage to the user and not only that. In my opinion it bites with the browser policy "for our friends". As our friend, Vivaldi should rather give us the option to block ads, but at the same time give us the suggestion that if we turn off the blocking of ads, he will gain and so will we, because thanks to that he will be able to continue to give us the best. So let Mr. @Jon think again about the honestly idiotic limitation of your own brand's browser functions and maybe he'll give us an ad-blocker that can be adjusted to suit how much you want to block them if you want to, and if you don't need to reduce the filtering levels of your ads. I think this is a better concept than the lack of such an advertising blocker. Although I do not know maybe I am wrong.
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@MattSolo45 I have not seen ads in my use of the test versions. I have also not seen what I am afflicted by in other browsers on my phone where some kind of malicious spam page takes over my browsing until I clear all app data. So far, it runs clean.
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@Ayespy So Vivaldi mobile has no adblocker, but you magically don't see any ads? And what kind of crappy browsers have you been loading on your Android previously? If you install malicious apps, that's your own fault. Every browser I have used thus far doesn't show "spam pages" that are created from within the app itself and I've tested and used tons over the years. Would be interested in definite examples.
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@luetage I don't install malicious apps, I don't use extensions or blockers, and my other three browsers were Samsung that came with the device, Chrome, and Opera. It's not that I don't see any ads. It's that I don't have popups or anything obtrusive. The browser runs faster and smoother than any other browser on the device (YMMV). Each of these spam pages has had something to do with a sweepstakes, congratulating me for having won something, and was not clearable without pressing on a link in the page which, needless to say, I would not do. Needless to say, I do not click on sweepstakes links. A clue may be that it appears I may have been on a public WiFi in a government building when the first one appeared. Another clue is that in each case, the browser page I had arrived on (before the obstructive popup took over) was linked from the facebook app, since I was killing time while waiting on queue. I have since removed the facebook app from my device, because it runs in the background gobbling battery and reporting on me to facebook, even when it is "closed." Stinking criminals.
In extremis, I still kill time on facebook, but I do so from within Vivaldi Mobile (which runs faster than the app), and so far without incident.
So there you go.
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@luetage For fun, I checked Vivaldi mobile browser's default settings. It blocks pop-ups and redirects, and some ads. It only shows notifications with permission, and the mic and camera are blocked unless I turn them on. So it's not without security.
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It's nice to hear that at least the annoying ads won't be there. However, me and so the ads interfere with the pages and sometimes match the aesthetic appearance of the page. The blockage ads also helps you to load the page much faster so the translation that you just need to block those intrusive and harmful ads doesn't have the power to do so. I would prefer Vivaldi to give the user a choice in this matter as I wrote earlier and to decide for himself how to block the ads and not everything depending on Vivaldi's policy. In case no add-ons or blocking of ads not only sensitive ones are added, it is enough to wait for the modified version of the application.
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@MattSolo45 In the translation strings there is one, Extensions, inherent to Sync, perhaps in later versions will be implemented.
@luetage As it says @Ayespy there's a possibility to block "Popups and redirections" and "Announcements", it's obviously not like uBlock but it makes advertising less invasive. If you really want to delete everything you can try Blokada that works with any browser.
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@MattSolo45 Can't really talk about features. All I can say is, if you try it when it comes out, you might find it does what you want - without add-ons.
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@Ayespy Well, this had nothing to do with the browser you used apparently, but it doesn't make any sense to discuss it, since I can't compare.
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@Folgore101 I don't need an adblocker, I am rooted and have an edited hosts file. Blocking popups is standard on many mobile browsers, this isn't innovative by any stretch. Oh well, we will see. But I am willing to predict that the new Firefox mobile will be hard to beat in terms of UI.