Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality
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@eldritchsnail Hi - good tip - however this won't work once Manifest v2 has been removed. You won't be able to add Mv2 extensions at all, even unpacked.
BTW I have no solutions for the problem of Mv2 being removed so don't ask
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@eldritchsnail said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
download the Chromium asset zip file
playing devil's advocate;
once google completely remove mv2 code from their engine next year, why would @gorhill bother still maintaining his chromium
uBOmv2 code... ie, i suspect your idea might be severely time-limited...? -
@Pathduck Ah, that's a shame, but thank you for clarifying!
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@Pathduck said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
BTW I have no solutions for the problem of Mv2 being removed
oh, i do...
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@ybjrepnfr said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
@Pathduck said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
BTW I have no solutions for the problem of Mv2 being removed
oh, i do...
F*****x?
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@barbudo2005 heehee, spot on, tis indeed
rp, though ofc that's forked from the Fox.fwiw, my enthusiasm for
floorp[which is now the same kind of passion i once enjoyed from 2015 with vivaldi, rip], is coz it focuses on the stuff important to me in a browser, without any of the sad crap vivaldi has diverged off into & is thus irrelevant for me. once, the early mantra of being "a browser for our friends" resonated strongly with me, but unfortunately for the past several years those words seem more ironic than accurate.the beginning of the end was the day [a few years ago] i finally got it thru my thick skull that vivaldi devs & jon seem entirely uninterested in giving us another tab management paradigm option, being
tst, which is so palpably superior to the current meagre options. more recently though, with the advent of "don't be evil corp" mv2 shenanigans & the consequent impending death of chromiumuBO, i realised that even if vivaldi magically gave me nativetsttomorrow [with comparable functionality tosidebery], it still would be too late, coz i refuse to use any browser that can't run mv2uBO.tis all such a pity.
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@ybjrepnfr said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
fwiw, my enthusiasm for floorp [which is now the same kind of passion i once enjoyed from 2015 with vivaldi, rip], is coz it focuses on the stuff important to me in a browser,
there is a new browser (and engine) in Town - Ladybird
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@Stardust, sounds good, but I'll believe it when I see it in 2026, launching a browser with a new independent engine build from scratch (???).
Not the first one who tried it, among the already 70 abandoned browsers out there.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@Stardust ta for that. yes, i only learned of this a few nights ago, & then found it's very early in its development.
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@ybjrepnfr said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
it's very early in its development
That's an understatement.
We are targeting a first Alpha release for early adopters in 2026.
Roughly 2 years and they MIGHT have a first alpha release. I wish them luck on their endeavours, would be a breath of fresh air for browsing world.
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2 Years? We'll see, but there are good reasons why there hasn't been a new engine for 20 years, just improving the existing ones.
In essence there are only 2, Gecko and fork (Goanna) and KHtml and forks (WebKit, Blink and Qt).
Even if they get it in 2 years, it will be buggy for another >5, until they have the development of the existing ones, they will not survive this.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@Catweazle Survive? They’re not trying to make money. People need to keep investing time is the issue and with slow progress and web standards keeping expanding and getting more convoluted they will have a hard time catching up before abandoning.
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@Stardust I read about it too, it was all over reddit. I bookmarked it and will check on it in a few years, if I don’t forget about it. It’s a bold endeavor.
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@luetage, the surviving not only depends on money, but on a minimum market share. Their income is based entirely on donors and sponsors, although they have not become dependent on them intelligently, what do you think would happen when after many years when this browser is released, no one uses it or no one continues to sacrifice their time in developing it, because Blink has become a universal standard?
As I said before, there are currently around 70 browsers on the market that were abandoned due to not being able to get their foot in a more saturated market of more than 100 browsers.
Although there are still new browsers, such as Arc, but these did not have this problem of investing many years in developing it, only of using an existing engine to put their own UI.
But starting from scratch developing a new independent engine would have made sense 20 years ago, but not now, this train has already gone.I see with these devs more idealism than common sense, this is why I believe it when it goes on the market working well, not before.
>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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well, I suppose topdogs hate excellence , tis harsh truth the world over.
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meanwhile, what would have happened had vivaldi based on firefox?
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@Catweazle said:
But starting from scratch developing a new independent engine would have made sense 20 years ago, but not now, this train has already gone.
yeah, thinking of a completely new engine, and call it ... PRESTO!
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@Catweazle said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
@Stardust, sounds good, but I'll believe it when I see it in 2026, launching a browser with a new independent engine build from scratch (???).
Yes, the World needs a new engine ASAP! We have one Evil Corp controlling chromium, another one - Mozilla is going downhill (Mozilla recently acquired Ad company)
Not the first one who tried it, among the already 70 abandoned browsers out there.
70 abandoned browsers based on chromium? No one cares about them. Or was there an attempt to build engine from scratch? I don't remember such
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@luetage said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
@Stardust I read about it too, it was all over reddit. I bookmarked it and will check on it in a few years, if I don’t forget about it. It’s a bold endeavor.
I wish them success! Gonna follow the project too
