Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview
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okay, so I have few issues with RSS reader:
obviously current OPML import is just a WIP, right?
one of my feeds is called /dev/null and it was interpreted as nested structure for some reason (I can understand that, but strongly dislike it)
RSS reader should be it's own view, not the less loved child of Mail
middle-clicking on the article list doesn't work, what's even worse you can't even middle-click title on the reader pane
lack of favicons looks really off, but I assume it's also just WIP and that's why placeholder RSS icon is there?
it seems mouse back and forward buttons don't trigger actions performed by back and forward buttons on the weird toolbar that is clearly different from regular toolbar
reading pane treats article awfully too much like an e-mail, with all shenanigans like copy address on author fieldedit: oh, it looks like it silently failed to import all my sources? or maybe they weren't selected when I clicked select all?
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@jon said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@solidsnake , we do monitor this, to be frank, and things get reported into the system.
@jon , that's great to hear.
But some feedback from the team would also be very nice to hear. I know there are a lot of threads, but I guess will be enough for the first page of the most popular requests, as sorted by upvotes.My other request about Regex support for 'find in page' is now a few years old
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@hlehyaric Many Thanks for pointing it out. I didn't find anything when I searched.
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@greybeard You're welcome.
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@zakius: there also seems to be some performance issue with rendering articles list, with no scientific method, just clicking and looking it seems to be rendering few times longer than on Waterfox 56 in my fork of Smart RSS (so it's JS and HTML running on old and slow engine compared to what I assume is ... probably JS and HTML but running on Blink and V8 so extremely fast)
note that Smart RSS in 56 already doesn't feel perfectly snappy, here it's on the verge of annoying, but I'd be happy to accept it if these 2 dealbreakers I mentioned (and browser-wide dealbreakers too, like lack of toolbar configuration or rocker configuration or middle click on tab bar to open new tab) are taken care of -
@zakius: the line between "I can't use it" and "it's virtually perfect" is really thin, but I believe it can be crossed
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Talking about mail, that I haven't tried yet and likely won't in the current state of things: is there any chance to get ActiveSync/Exchange going? Or OAuth Outlook and OAuth Gmail?(okay, found an answer to Gmail at least) and CalDAV/CardDAV? not priority for me as I gave up on desktop mail client long ago due to lack of ways to manage server sided setting like filters or (not) a spam flagging as there seems to be no standardized protocol for any of these (but maybe you can get that working for your own service at least?)
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@jon: you can and should provide IMAP version if anyone prefers that, would that work if someone decides to configure everything manually or as soon as there's @gmail.com you go OAuth way?
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@fifonik It will be along. When M3 was first in early development, it could import from M2. However, the database structure and indexing had to be substantially changed, and so that capability was lost at that time. It will be back.
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@edger: I'm getting this too. Such a shame. My preference would be to not use Gmail at all, but unfortunately I need it for work. I hope Google fix the problem soon, because M3 is a dream come true in every other respect!
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@purgat0ri said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@edger: I'm getting this too. Such a shame. My preference would be to not use Gmail at all, but unfortunately I need it for work. I hope Google fix the problem soon, because M3 is a dream come true in every other respect!
We are pushing Google. Great if you do as well. This truly is an absurd situation.
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@jon How can i urge Google to fix the problem?
"Non è tanto chi sei quanto quello che fai che ti qualifica" - "Il coraggio non è la mancanza di paura ma bensì la consapevolezza che qualcosa sia più importante della paura stessa" - Vivaldi il browser che si adatta all'utente
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@jon said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@luetage , Google is requiring us to use this login method. They do support old clients with traditional IMAP login, but users have to go through a lot of hoops to enable that.
Ah! I have experience of constantly re-enabling access for "insecure" Thunderbird login to my wife's GMail, so I suppose I can do the same for Vivaldi and my own GMail account...
(I hadn't tried GMail yet after reading about the stupid 100 access limit)
By the way, I have no problems using GMail in Opera 12.
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Thank you!
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@mossman said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@jon said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@luetage , Google is requiring us to use this login method. They do support old clients with traditional IMAP login, but users have to go through a lot of hoops to enable that.
Ah! I have experience of constantly re-enabling access for "insecure" Thunderbird login to my wife's GMail, so I suppose I can do the same for Vivaldi and my own GMail account...
(I hadn't tried GMail yet after reading about the stupid 100 access limit)
By the way, I have no problems using GMail in Opera 12.
I guess you have been using it so long that it might be grandfathered in. New clients do not have that much luck.
CEO & Co-founder Vivaldi
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@Folgore101 said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@jon How can i urge Google to fix the problem?
That would be complaining to them that you are seeing this message.
Lets hope they respond to use quickly. There is hope.
CEO & Co-founder Vivaldi
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@jon Thanks for this great mail/cal/rss client! @mossman
I am using gmail for years now too.
I just turned off OAuth in my GMail settings but unfortunately it still does not work.
see https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/53348/any-workarounds-for-gmail-login-authentication-issue/2
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Can we assume that Feeds will sync through Vivaldi.net as well? Not just the feeds, but whether an item is read or not, etc?
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@peefy said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@jon Thanks for this great mail/cal/rss client! @mossman
I am using gmail for years now too.
I just turned off OAuth in my GMail settings but unfortunately it still does not work.
see https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/53348/any-workarounds-for-gmail-login-authentication-issue/2
I guess we have to wait for google, unless someone finds a workaround@peefy , thank you for your kind words.
Sorry that did not work. It worked for @saudiqbal using POP. I really hope they fix this soon!
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@mikestone said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
Can we assume that Feeds will sync through Vivaldi.net as well? Not just the feeds, but whether an item is read or not, etc?
@mikestone , we have not enabled sync like that. We might offer that in the future, but no decision has been made on that at this time. As you know, we generally do what you ask us to do, so if you want it, it will be on our list.
CEO & Co-founder Vivaldi
