Features vs Extensions

Catweazle

@pesala: I'm using sharex for that, and always willing to switch to my own hosting, though always too lazy to do so

I also use ShareX (I don't know a better tool for this), I think that no extension or function of the browser can do the same, starting with why a function or extension to capture the screen in the browser requires to have it open for use them.

Ornorm

Having the extensions features included as default features in Vivaldi would be awesome. The problem might be to choose the ones that could have a real added value and know how to prioritize the developments of those.
It's also true that Vivaldi could outperform its concurrents if the most used extensions of Chrome, Opera or Firefox (which are actually features that users are looking for and are missing in their browsers) were included by default...

waldo

You should implement a feed reader. Some argue that this should be implemented as part of the email client, but I think it should be a separate thing. I am interrested in RSS feed reader, but not necessarily email client in Vivaldi.

LonM

@waldo If you haven't already, case a vote for this FR

I currently use an RSS extension, but I dont think it is maintained anymore. There's another plus for features: You can guarantee they'll be kept up to date.

Well, unless you're Google in which case features may disappear at any moment. (I never used it, but there was a lot of noise when google killed of its web based feed reader)

luetage

@lonm Vocal minority. It's known that very very few users take advantage of RSS. Firefox ditched it too. I like RSS and it's been the first thing I asked about when joining Vivaldi, but I can understand why it doesn't get priority.

NaGeL

Is it possible to have a built-in support for password managers like LastPass?
That would be great!

zakius

@luetage: RSS is the basic of the basics, impossible to live without and moderately easy to do (when compared to sync for example) but sync is prioritized
well, market is like democracy: majority hurts the minority

iAN CooG

@zakius said in Features vs Extensions:

impossible to live without

I beg to differ, I never had the need of RSS myself.

Nekomajin

Well, if we are talking about extensions, you should implement/fix the support of browserAction context menus. A lot of high quality extensions use that feature, which is not accessible in Vivaldi.

Catweazle

@axk said in Features vs Extensions:

I have no choice but to use ext for something the browser won't provide: uBlock, Dark Reader, Youtube Enhancer, Imagus, video downloader. I'll stop using them when the browser can replace them. Which for most browsers will be never.

There are several browsers that have a built-in adblocker, but none more efficient than uBlock or nano Adblocker, which in my opinion are the best.
Extensions that invert the color of the pages, like Dark Reader there are some, Vivaldi himself has this function, but he does not save it for the specific pages.
But better than Dark Reader is Night Eye, since it does not simply invert the colors of the pages, but analyzes and applies dark colors as a result of this only in case of need automatically. On pages that already have a dark background, it is not activated.

Folgore101

@LonM
I do not know what extension you use, i use RSS Feed Reader and it is constantly updated, if ever an integrated RSS reader will save me the use of an extension and I'll be happy.

@waldo
Go here to vote: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/24115/rss-and-atom-reader

@luetage
The RSS reader is however in eighth place of the ranking of the request with 67 votes, i would say that of users who are interested there are.

Another feature that i consider important and that needs to be integrated is to be able to select the text of the links as this extension does Select like a Boss.

greybeard

@gwen-dragon: What about supporting a working version of the emerging WebAuthn (Web Authentication) as FF, Chrome and Edge are doing? Is that a possibility in the future?

LonM

@luetage Vocal minority perhaps. And in the sense of the wider web, its definitely true.

But I wonder if the population of Vivaldi would have a different split, given its aim towards power users.

Pesala

@lonm I subscribe to the Vivaldi Blog via the built-in Newsfeed reader in Oprea 12.18. It's not a feature I used much. It was useful on certain occasions to have a feed to JIRA when Beta testing other products as I could quickly see a dozen or more new message without logging in to check what was new since my last visit.

It's not just a power user thing, though. I suspect that others might like to follow sports results, etc., via a newsfeed. The large number of votes for any feature request must be at least some indication of its popularity.

Catweazle

@folgore101 said in Features vs Extensions:

@LonM
I do not know what extension you use, i use RSS Feed Reader and it is constantly updated, if ever an integrated RSS reader will save me the use of an extension and I'll be happy.

@waldo
Go here to vote: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/24115/rss-and-atom-reader

@luetage
The RSS reader is however in eighth place of the ranking of the request with 67 votes, i would say that of users who are interested there are.

Another feature that i consider important and that needs to be integrated is to be able to select the text of the links as this extension does Select like a Boss.

I have always been able to copy part of a link without any problem and without using an extension for this (???)

zakius

@ian-coog: if you never opened your eyes you wouldn't miss it, but after living your all life like you did losing your sight would be devastating

zakius

@catweazle: I'd love mix of uB0 and uM (and defender?) built in my browser, native code should be noticeably faster in heavy loads

jplanvers

I agree whole-heartedly.

I've been waiting for you guys to add customizable mouse chording for several years now. Would love to switch from Firefox and stop using a mouse gesture/chord extension. Hope that day comes soon.

Pesala

Over the years there have been a few requests for easier selections of text in links, but I saw no feature request yet for "Select like a Boss." I just got used to selecting text in links after years of using Vivaldi and Opera 12.18

One feature that might be worth building in is Read Aloud Selected Text. We used to have this in Opera until IBM pulled the plug-out.

If English is not your first language, it can be a very helpful aid to learning to pronounce it better. PDF Viewers typically have this feature.

becm

@greybeard since credential management is Chromium-based, initial WebAuthn support should already be in Vivaldi stable.

For tests, check if chrome://flags/#enable-web-authentication-api is enabled on respective Chromium derivate.
Differences should be considered a bug and reported.