Multi-Account Containers
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I installed vivaldi with the hope of multi-container feature but sadly workspaces share the same cookies. I will continue with firefox until Vivaldi or Opera implements it.
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Well I came to put in this feature request but it seems I am not the only one who wants it, along with close to 500 votes I would think the 14 pages of discussion around this would be an indicator of want/need.
I'd be happy with a FF like version of containers, eps if it allows for auto-opening of specified sites in said container. A HUGE bonus would be the addition of something like the FF "temporary containers" addon -
Workspace containers along with workspace rules would be awesome. I need separate cookies for work and personal. Big use case is keeping Microsoft sites for personal and work use separate, which is a pain given their single sign on system. With rules, I can trigger Vivaldi to open certain Microsoft admin sites in the work workspace.
Upvote for me.
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I found this thread as I was searching for a way to have multiple gmail tabs open at the same time. While I did upvote this suggestion and think it would be a great idea, if anyone is looking for what I was, here is the solution.
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While logged into a gmail account, click on your gmail profile icon in the upper right hand corner of the window.
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Click "Add another account". This will open another tab with a sign-in prompt.
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Sign in with a different account than from step #1.
If you look at the URL for the tab from step #1, and the tab from step #3, they are assigned their own unique URL. Within the URL appears to be a simple user id assignment, as "/u/n/":
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/#inboxYou can then utilize both accounts at the same time, assign them to their own workspaces, etc.
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Vivaldi is not even worth considering as a browser until a feature like this is added. Back to Firefox I go!
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Sadly, I'm with @IrinaIsha Taken monttthhhsss to configure Vivaldi and get used to the shortcuts, the interface, the wonderful "Hide UI" feature, mmmm. and, actually, the stability! Plus it takes up less UI space...I think, than Firefox (top bar specifically).
TLDR; Firefox Multi-Account Containers is so useful, an integral part of my daily workflow, that I may have to switch away after investing much time and brainpower towards Vivaldi (Viv)...
TLDR (continued); ...After spending hours learning Viv., tweaking Viv, playing with Viv, ramming Viv hard with my highly-customized-extremely-intense workflow day-in and day-out, but now I asked Viv to please store my cookies in a new
Container
or aWorkspace
with an option to have it's ownPrivateCookieJar
vs the defaultCommonCookieJar
orDefaultCookieJar
orSharedCookieJar
orGlobalCookieJar
or ...?Workspaces are great! I am still learning how to use them, currently main use is to stash a bunch of tabs to come back to later when something comes up (or I see something shiny). (#SIDENOTE: I should setup a
cmd-chain
calledstash
to do something like that, btw, amaaaazing, like, so effing amazing, coming up with that power feature).Thank you, Vivaldi team, I have been comparing major browsers for Windows primarily, Android, and Linux a-little-bit. Vivaldi hits the sweet spot for Windows for sure, comes close to amazing with Android, and I need to try on Linux again (WSL, Virtual Machine, and Bare Metal).
I am more-than-somewhat embarresed to admin I've been becoming a [an?] MS Edge fanboi lately too. Locked in for Work with M365, and my personal company with M365 in another profile, plus PWAs (Progressive Web Apps) for YouTube Music, Proton Mail (easier/less resource intensive than dealing with running the bridge, and theoretically more secure since there is no local copy of mail/history/...?), etc... Plus, MS Teams integrates with it (ya it can suck but what's better? Specifically for WebDev (Product, Dev Topics, Meetings, Calls, Release Coordination, Deployments, DevOps, Alerts, etc.))... and Windows going the WebView2 way (maybe? based on how when my primary Edge crashes, all WebView2 views go black (e.g. PowerBI Desktop, Excel Desktop, etc.).
Anyways, that was too much, apologies and eternal thanks.
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Repeating this, but with larger text.
You can do this with an already existing chrome extension
Cookie Profile Switcher is what you are all looking for, it does exactly as it says on the tin, you switch cookies (have multiple accounts logged in). I've been using it for years. Vivaldi really should build this into their workspaces feature.
It's open source, rock solid, and incredibly easy to use. I even use it on Firefox for Android (and Kiwi) since they let you use extensions on mobile.
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@drannex42
I tried to use it but it is not always working as intended.
Also FF containers is much more intuitive to use.
I get it that it is fine for you , but as it seems lots of us want something more complete.I can see that on the top 5 feature requests along with this are also Workspaces and session sync.
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@MoosMas said in Multi-Account Containers:
Cookies are not separated between Workspaces. I have asked the same question to Vivaldi employees when the feature got announced, and they (at the time) had no plans to expand workspaces to support separated cookies. I also referenced this thread in my question, because I thought Workspaces were a giant leap towards finally having multi-account containers. Separating cookies between workspaces seems like a small thing to add, since they now have added workspaces (the foundation of multi-account containers), although I understand it's still a really complicated feature to develop.
Indeed, separated cookies in workspaces would be excellent. I recently installed the Arc browser and Arc can link Spaces with Profiles, so a Space can use a specific cookie set.
But I very much prefer Vivaldi to Arc. It is just that the lack of this feature in Vivaldi is disappointing.
I can imagine that is not a simple thing, but the guys from Arc have proved that it is doable in Chromium.
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@dalinar said in Multi-Account Containers:
There are major downsides to multiple profiles if you don't need them..
- it is a lot of work to update settings in each and every profile
- Each profile is huge.. some people have limited space on their laptops (my C drive is only 256gb) .. they are huge because they need to store cache files.
- I'm sure there are others
I'll add to that:
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You cannot have separate taskbar icons for profiles without pinning them permanently to the taskbar. And even with permanent pinning, you can only achieve a taskbar icon with some workaround hack that most people don't even know. It is an issue if you have more than just a few profiles.
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You still cannot sort profiles alphabetically or otherwise in the Profiles dropdown.
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If you have multiple profiles running at the same time, you need multiple browser windows open.
Yeah, User Profiles do work... If you have 2-3 profiles they can work just fine. If you need, let's say 10 profiles, it gets more difficult... If you need 15 profiles or more, it can get messy. In many scenarios a separate Profile is an overkill.
Linking Workspaces with Profiles would be a GIGANTIC improvement. As the guys from Arc have done it, it is doable... Though, yeah, I am sure it is not a piece of cake.
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@drannex42 No, because as its name says, it's a switcher, i.e. it doesn't allow using multiple accounts from the same site at the same time in separate tabs.
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Is there any update on this? This and Sidebery-like features are the only thing preventing me from switching from Firefox. If they are working on this, and if it will be implemented, then I'd be really glad to switch from Firefox to Vivaldi full-time. Containers are extremely useful and a necessity for me. So are other features like nested tab grouping and tree-like tabs.
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@mahirushiina the technical basis of
Chromium
still is the limiting factor.The storage separation there only allows for a single context per window.
And only for 'normal' and 'incognito' mode per profile.There is a nice current summary about the actual technical in-depth show-stoppers.
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@becm Oh. Is there no other way? For e.g., can't it be implemented even on the Workspace level? Is Chromium the limiting factor for tree-like tabs as well?
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@mahirushiina It strikes me that in order to make multi-account containers, Vivaldi would have to build a whole new profiling system into the UI layer, replacing Chromium profiles - a major undertaking, huge lump of code, and possibly performance-killing. Tree-style tabs will be massively finicky to code properly, but strike me as a more likely feature to eventually appear in Vivaldi.
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@Ayespy Oh. At least sounds good to hear regarding the tree-like tabs.
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@KaKi87 said in Multi-Account Containers:
@drannex42 No, because as its name says, it's a switcher, i.e. it doesn't allow using multiple accounts from the same site at the same time in separate tabs.
The extension SessionBox allows multiple accounts in separate tabs at same time
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@pukkandan Whether that's the case or not, this one is paid, so no thanks.
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@KaKi87 said in Multi-Account Containers:
@pukkandan Whether that's the case or not, this one is paid, so no thanks.
My point is: The extension proves that the feature is theoretically possible without needing a "whole new profiling system" as is being claimed here