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LonM

@Ayespy Correct. They need to count all the way to 2.999̇

Holly

after I could no longer bear the pre-installed Windows 10 mail client which was my makeshift e-mail client the last couple of years, I am now back to using Opera Mail, and am once again astonished by how solid this piece of software is.
even though the servers to download spell-check dicts are long down and it won't remember the god damn font I select when writing HTML mails (always defaulting to some horrendous serif font), it still just does a super solid job in delivering exactly what I expect from an e-mail client.

when did development on Opera Mail stop? 2011 or something? to think that is still one of if not the best option almost a decade later is just crazy. Vivaldi team, it really is HIGH TIME you let us upgrade from Opera Mail.
it doesn't even have to be as good. just knowing that the client is modern software that is actively being worked on is enough. as long the basic functionality of an e-mail client is there it's all good.

Folgore101

@Holly I completely agree that M2 is still a great product after all these years.
However, i think that releasing M3 now is not a good idea, many may be disappointed by the shortcomings or even worse they may have problems with their mail, labeling it as not up to the mark.
I understand very well the impatience, i've been waiting since 2015 to be able to use M3 but "when it's ready" maybe it's the best choice for the release.

jon

As you all understand, there are different requirements to M3 from different people. We will not be able to satisfy them all in the first snapshot, but we will satisfy a lot of requirements. We will then continue to work on M3 to satisfy the needs of most all users, to the extent possible. Now, however, the main focus continues to be on stability and speed, while continuing to refine all the features we already have. We are getting closer each day!

Cheers,
Jon.

Folgore101

@Gwen-Dragon You have to consider that it's almost 10 years that has been abandoned and perhaps knowing the road that Opera wanted to take with Chromium have stopped adding features since long before.
What you mention are certainly important things, but speaking of functioning, in my opinion, it's still superior to the much acclaimed Outlook as an email client.

felagund

@jon said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:

As you all understand, there are different requirements to M3 from different people. We will not be able to satisfy them all in the first snapshot, but we will satisfy a lot of requirements. We will then continue to work on M3 to satisfy the needs of most all users, to the extent possible. Now, however, the main focus continues to be on stability and speed, while continuing to refine all the features we already have. We are getting closer each day!
Cheers,
Jon.

I understand it takes time (just longer than everybody expected, I guess), I am just really looking forward to it. M2 is still good but that is the only reason I still keep Opera 12 around and I miss having e-mails integrated into the browser.

On a related note, are there plans to have M3 also available for Android? From my research, there is no e-mail application in Android that would not slow down to a crawl when asked to download locally a large (100 000+ emails, 12 GB) inbox via IMAP. Since M2 could do this on computers a decade ago, today's phones must be capable of it hardware-wise, just the software is lacking:-(.

jon

@felagund , I agree with you. I could not do without having integrated mail. It is just so much more effective. M3 is great in that respect and I am so much looking forward to getting it out there.

With respect to mobile, the first step is clearly to get out M3 on desktop. Mobile will have to come later.

Best,
Jon.

Folgore101

@jon Will it always be integrated into Vivaldi also in the mobile version?

jon

@Folgore101 , it is just too early to say. We have some ideas, but it is going to take time.

Cheers,
Jon.

Folgore101

@jon All right, i'm glad to hear this news that further increases my interest in this project.

Holly

@jon seeing your activity and awareness in this thread makes me feel very relieved!
now I'll be back to waiting in excited anticipation.

jon

@Holly , hopefully you will not need to wait all that much longer. We continue to make great strides. There is still, however, work to be done. On the other hand, we have added quite a lot of functionality while working on stability, so we will have even more to show you.

Cheers,
Jon.

jon

M3 is just a very important project to me. I used M2 until M3 was usable enough for me to use it. Now I would not go back as M3 has for me so much more to offer. You will see what I mean once we go live.

Cheers,
Jon.

kahukura

@jon I am convinced it will be something good if there are no buttons that can't be opt out. Please keep us posted here as you do. Most of us like that you share some information about the ongoing work.

jon

@kahukura , as with everything we do, we provide options. That applies here as well. You will be able to use Vivaldi with or without M3. M3 will be there, but if you do not use it, you can hide it and likely even disable it, not that you really need to.

We try to keep you in the loop of what is happening, without spilling the beans on everything. There are just so many projects that are coming to fruition at this time. We have been adding the tracker and ad blocker and alarm clock. We are adding a lot more customization. Then there is M3 and feeds coming up shortly and there are a few other big things I have not mentioned, but that you will see soon.

Cheers,
Jon.

kahukura

@jon This is why I am here. I like innovations like these and it makes me always smile reading about what's coming up. Thank you very much! Not to forget, please stay all well. I assume it will get more bumpy before it improves. Vivaldi project connects people in a good way.

jon

@kahukura , thank you for your kind words. We are all staying home at this time. Hope you are staying safe as well!

Our project is even more important now as people spend even more time at home and on the Internet. We aim to provide some joy by releasing some really good updates in the months ahead.

Cheers,
Jon.

paul1149

@jon said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:

M3 is just a very important project to me. I used M2 until M3 was usable enough for me to use it.>
Cheers,
Jon.

Hi Jon,
I'm waiting on M3 before I switch from GM to VM, because I need the mail alert function that the Checker Plus extension currently adds to GM. I'm hoping M3/VM will be competitive to GM/Checker, which I would like to jettison along with the rest of Google.

Be well,
Paul

jon

@paul1149 said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:

@jon said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:

M3 is just a very important project to me. I used M2 until M3 was usable enough for me to use it.>
Cheers,
Jon.

Hi Jon,
I'm waiting on M3 before I switch from GM to VM, because I need the mail alert function that the Checker Plus extension currently adds to GM. I'm hoping M3/VM will be competitive to GM/Checker, which I would like to jettison along with the rest of Google.

Be well,
Paul

Hi Paul,

If notifications is what you need, clearly M3 has that. You would still read your mails in M3, though. We have a really good system for organizing your mails, IMHO. You will get to see it soon, I hope.

Cheers,
Jon.

mirmalag

A question that was maybe already asked: will it be possible to import M2 mails and configs in M3?