8 reasons why Vivaldi is bad browser



  • lol browser
    1/ no customize controls, buttons and toolbars like Firefox
    2/ no support RSS like Firefox
    3/ no support Sync or Backup data like Firefox, Chrome
    4/ right-click does not work properly
    WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO RIGHT-CLICK ???
    5/ bookmark is very stupid, can not edit/del/move... any link and sub-folder inside bookmark folder
    6/ can not customize the Status Bar (del/move controls, extension buttons...) like Firefox Bottom Bar
    7/ not have Upload Screenshot (prnt.sc, postimages...) option and "Take a ScreenShot" option from the context menu like Firefox.
    8/ toolbar use too much space
    https://image.prntscr.com/image/I3s9OyljS0SzLzthu_OKoA.gif

    Finally, Sorry for my poor English


  • Moderator

    Eight reasons why decepticon is a bad user.

    1. Does not understand that Vivaldi is only on version 1.4 after 3 years, while Firefox is on version 58 after 15 years.
    2. Does not understand that RSS will come in due course
    3. Does not yet know about Sync experimental feature in Snapshots, and afraid to ask
    4. Does not know how and where to use right-click
    5. Does not know how to edit bookmarks in the Bookmarks Panel or Bookmarks Tab
    6. See 1
    7. Did not notice the screen shot option in the Status Bar
    8. Did not yet discover Settings, Tabs, Tab Display, Remove Tab Spacing in maximized window

    Sorry for my blunt speech, but you deserve it.



  • lol browser to you too

    1. Fair point
    2. I would like that as well
    3. Soonβ„’
    4. More details needed
    5. I can do all of those things
    6. That's just point 1 again
    7. There are screenshot controls in the status bar, and I'd rather not have integrations to random 3rd parties without my consent. You could add your screenshot sharing site as a web panel.
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    8. Go to settings > tabs and check the option "remove tab spacing in maximised windows"

    Your english is fine


  • Moderator

    @decepticon Thanks for your comparative rant.
    As you a real Firefox loving person, why do you want to use Vivaldi?
    Lets move such Chit-Chat.



  • @pesala You beat me to it :/



  • @pesala What do we gain by discarding concerns of new users in such a harsh manner? That they didn't raise these concerns in a polite way is regrettable, but you aren't forced to answer fire with fire. After all Vivaldi needs new users badly, and that many of them have issues getting acquainted with the intricacies of the browser and react with frustration and disappointment is a bad sign. This user took the detour and made a post, others just uninstall and never look back. Try to reason and help them or make fun of them -- our choice.

    Besides, their issue in point 7 is automatically uploading screenshots and accessing the screenshot feature from the context menu, not taking screenshots.

    @Decepticon Vivaldi has more customization options concerning the UI than Firefox will ever have -- but you gotta take it into your own hands and do something about it:
    https://forum.vivaldi.net/category/52/modifications
    https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi?page=1

    General info and help:
    https://help.vivaldi.com/
    https://vivalditips.com/

    Finally, if you feel a feature is missing use this forum board. Posting in a random thread won't get the attention of the developers. And try to be nice next time, members around here are very defensive of their favourite browser and don't take kindly to people calling it outright bad ^^


  • Moderator

    @luetage It is not about what we gain, or about Vivaldi gaining one more disloyal user, it is for the benefit of Decepticon to learn how to behave nicely.

    It is much more important for Decepticon to learn how to report issues and ask for help skilfully.

    Treating young or naive users with Idiot Compassion only perpetuates the problems of modern society.


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    @decepticon said in 8 reasons why Vivaldi is bad browser:

    2/ no support RSS like Firefox

    You can install a Chrome extension to read RSS Feeds.
    RSS feed will be added when the Vivaldi mail client is ready.

    3/ no support Sync or Backup data like Firefox, Chrome

    Is already in sicne two months and in current 1.14 Snapshot. See https://vivaldi.com/blog/snapshots/help-test-sync/

    4/ right-click does not work properly

    Can not reproduce your issue. Would be nice if you report such issue at https://vivaldi.com/bugreport/

    5/ bookmark is very stupid, can not edit/del/move... any link and sub-folder inside bookmark folder

    The bookmark bar has many missing elements to add/edit bookmarks.
    You may use the bookmark panel or the bookmarks page.
    What is missing for you? Do you like to explain? May be we can help.

    1/ no customize controls, buttons and toolbars like Firefox
    6/ can not customize the Status Bar (del/move controls, extension buttons...) like Firefox Bottom Bar
    8/ toolbar use too much space

    Yes, customization of the UI like in Opera 12 or Firefox is really missing.
    Patches and Modification can be made. But that is a workaround of a missing feature.

    7/ not have Upload Screenshot (prnt.sc, postimages...) option and "Take a ScreenShot" option from the context menu like Firefox.

    Yes, such feature to upload a screenshot to image hosting portals missing.
    Some screenshot extensions of other browsers have it already.


    Many reasons to make Vivaldi much better.
    Please help us to investigate bugs and report them to Vivaldi devs.
    Vote for missing features, help users.
    Better than telling users "Why Vivaldi is […]" and ranting.


  • Vivaldi Translator

    8 reasons why Firefox is a bad browser

    1. Since version 57 you can't set a homepage everytime you can open a new tab (even with extensions).

    2. Since version 57 many extensions don't work

    3. The UI is too much simple and minimalistic. Don't have a own style.

    4. Too many options hidden in the "about:config" page. It would be better update the way to show the options.

    5. Don't have Webpanels like Vivaldi

    6. The "new" screenshot feature only works when you are not in Private Browsing. In Vivaldi you can take a screenshot when you want.

    7. Firefox use more memory than other browsers

    8. The design of scrollbars is very ancient. They don't have support for ::-webkit-scrollbar for example and show the scrollbars always in a old style.

    Actually both Firefox & Vivaldi are good and excelent browsers. :wink:
    I think don't exist "The perfect browser", and I think Vivaldi goes to the right way, with only three years it's a good option, overall for those who want to see a modern UI for example or more options like a good Speed Dial or Webpanels (for me this features are very important).



  • Vivaldi is a browser in full development and obviously there are still things that some users may miss, although I am not among them. What is still lacking in Vivaldi can be met perfectly with the enormous amount of extensions available, even temporarily.
    On the other hand I do not understand people who register and then πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€ against good software.
    I have installed almost all browsers, also Firefox Quantum, Opera and Opera Neon, Maxthon, Ur, Avant and some more. None of them could convince me to use it as my main browser, but it never occurred to me to enter the community of users of the respective browsers to let them know that I do not like their browser badly.
    If I do not like a browser or other software, I simply stop using it. Alternatives there are enough



  • @pesala said in 8 reasons why Vivaldi is bad browser:

    @luetage It is not about what we gain, or about Vivaldi gaining one more disloyal user, it is for the benefit of Decepticon to learn how to behave nicely.

    You really seem to think that by belittling another user you can change their ways and make them a better person. I'm afraid this is not the world we live in. Only by setting a good example and staying calm and collected could you hope to achieve a similar reaction from your counterpart. Aggression will always lead to aggression, you gave ample proof of that in your first reply.

    It is much more important for Decepticon to learn how to report issues and ask for help skilfully.

    I agree.

    Treating young or naive users with Idiot Compassion only perpetuates the problems of modern society.

    tl;dr ^^


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    @luetage said in 8 reasons why Vivaldi is bad browser:

    tl;dr ^^

    That is not the way to improve your understanding. You talk about belittling others, but you belittle my well structured and well reasoned brief article like you know better. Your opinion is not worth any more than mine or anyone else's.



  • @pesala Pesala, my reply now and then was meant humorous and I tried to lighten things up. It was a joke when I first posted it in your thread, and I tried to do this again just now. I'm merely impersonating the problem you are addressing in the other topic, but I wasn't trying to troll you. I read it back then and I understood it. I'm sorry if you took this seriously.



  • @gwen-dragon said in 8 reasons why Vivaldi is bad browser:

    @decepticon Thanks for your comparative rant.
    As you a real Firefox loving person, why do you want to use Vivaldi?
    Lets move such Chit-Chat.

    I don't like FF Quantum, i use quite a lot of addons, most of them were broken.

    As a normal user (not adv user) i think Vivaldi could become a good browser for all in the future - but not now.
    It's really terrible when toolbar and status bar cannot be customized. Chrome/Vivaldi does not have enough space for me to arrange my extensions, only the right-area of toolbar is not enough, inconvenient and ugly. I want to pin some extensions to the left/mid-area of toolbar and others to status bar. Besides, I want to remove [Rewind by visited...] button from the toolbar and remove [Page Actions] button + [Zoom] control from the status bar

    Bookmark feature is too bad, it should be improved(I talk about Bookmark-Toolbar not Bookmark Panel). I don`t think that using Bookmark Panel is a good ideal

    @gwen-dragon said in 8 reasons why Vivaldi is bad browser:

    @decepticon said in 8 reasons why Vivaldi is bad browser:

    2/ no support RSS like Firefox

    You can install a Chrome extension to read RSS Feeds.
    RSS feed will be added when the Vivaldi mail client is ready.

    Yeah. Foxish live RSS extension works fine for me but i think RSS feature need to be integrated into browser.

    @lonm said in 8 reasons why Vivaldi is bad browser:

    1. Go to settings > tabs and check the option "remove tab spacing in maximised windows"

    I'm sorry, it is my mistake. I don't think the problems lies in Tab


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