"There's no need to download a new web browser."(Microsoft Edge)
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That's MS being its sleazy, desperate self once again. It's so nice to be happily on Linux, Vivaldi, Libreoffice, and other suchlike.
Brave search's database is still not quite as good as some others, but nonetheless it is my default search. One major factor is the AI summary, which saves an awful lot of time. It's not perfect, but it usually hits the high points very nicely.
For images, Startpage.
IMO, Brave search was very wise on the part of Brave. It brings people in repeatedly and creates good will. Throw in a couple of mild adverts for the browser, and you're on your way. Vivaldi should have done it long ago.
Current Vivaldi snapshot.. MX-23 Linux x64, KDE desktop.
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Meh, since swapping to SearX all this "someone else's problem".
I see no AI or sponsored content and I still get to use google, bing, yahoo, etc. -
@paul1149 said in "There's no need to download a new web browser."(Microsoft Edge):
Vivaldi should have done it long ago.
I think you mean that it should create its own search engine to, right?
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@ThePfromtheO That's essentially what I mean, yes. I also seem to recall that they decided against their own search. I don't know how the numbers add up, so I can't judge. But I don't have to agree with all of V's decisions in order to still consider it to be a great browser - I believe the best overall. While I don't like Brave nearly as much, I do think that some of their business decisions have been wise. Search is one, their easy video conferencing (via jitsi) is another.
Current Vivaldi snapshot.. MX-23 Linux x64, KDE desktop.
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@paul1149 said in "There's no need to download a new web browser."(Microsoft Edge):
Search is one, their easy video conferencing (via jitsi) is another.
Yeah, but they don't have so many features as V!
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@paul1149 said in "There's no need to download a new web browser."(Microsoft Edge):
@ThePfromtheO That's essentially what I mean, yes. I also seem to recall that they decided against their own search. I don't know how the numbers add up, so I can't judge. But I don't have to agree with all of V's decisions in order to still consider it to be a great browser - I believe the best overall. While I don't like Brave nearly as much, I do think that some of their business decisions have been wise. Search is one, their easy video conferencing (via jitsi) is another.
The money Vivaldi earns comes from agreements with some search engines, if Vivaldi had its own how would it make money without ads and profiling?
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@paul1149 If Vivaldi would have a own search engine, that could cost much more investment for server hardware. I do not think all Vivaldi owners would like to do this.
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If Vivaldi had a search engine? What would it be?
Would it be the most secure for all users?
Would it make blocking advertising and trackers the norm and beyond?
(I am amazed by how well Vivaldi blocks these -- I feel psychologically and physically more secure online)
Would it incorporate EU GDPR as part of the heart of what ensures privacy for every search?
Would it put an end to the invasive, threatening incursions of the M-word, the G-word, the B-word, and other tech bullies?
Would it be better than Onion in encryption and safeguards?
Would it protect users against people and organisations that violate civil liberties and human rights?For now, I'm just learning Vivaldi a day at a time -- and I love it the more I use it.
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@DoctorG Yes, you seem to be right...
You know more than I do, but they will also probably become more popular.With esteem,
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@martinreyhan2052 said in "There's no need to download a new web browser."(Microsoft Edge):
Would it make blocking advertising and trackers the norm and beyond?
(I am amazed by how well Vivaldi blocks these -- I feel psychologically and physically more secure online)Did you use Brave? It's better at blocking ads and trackers... It also has more privacy options.
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@martinreyhan2052 So, do you mean that Vivaldi is currently able to do all of these, and it is possible that it won't anymore if it has a search engine?
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@ThePfromtheO Yeah. Brave does an amazing job at blocking ads and trackers. It's the most seamless experience for the user.
My issue with it is that it's basically just Chrome without the Google stuff, which is fine if that's what you want.
I like Vivaldi for the customization and all the extra features it offers me. With the extra adblocking lists, Vivaldi does great for blocking ads and trackers too.
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@mathieulefrancois
Brave is too private for the ordinary user. This is why I moved from it.With esteem,
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@DoctorG said in "There's no need to download a new web browser."(Microsoft Edge):
@paul1149 If Vivaldi would have a own search engine, that could cost much more investment for server hardware. I do not think all Vivaldi owners would like to do this.
This wouldn't be the first search engine in existence. Many have done it. There must be money in it.
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@ThePfromtheO hmm what do you mean?
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@mathieulefrancois I mean that its privacy features are pretty too strong, which makes the browser have few other features... It is more focused on blocking ads and trackers...
Yeah, that isn't a bad thing, but still too much for me. The best evidence is that you can't sync your profile with other devices if you haven't already done that before on those devices. I didn't know that when my PC got broken... And when I tried to sync my browser...surprise! To start, you will need Brave installed on all the devices you plan to sync. Then, securely link them together with a sync code.
Also, it doesn't have a "Split Tabs" feature(although I heard there is a flag for that).
Or, mouse gestures!With esteem,
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@ThePfromtheO Each one has its strengths and weaknesses. As an example, Brave has a built-in AI Assistant, which is very useful, trust me!
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@ThePfromtheO said in "There's no need to download a new web browser."(Microsoft Edge):
is very useful, trust me!
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although not always the smartest... -
@ThePfromtheO said in "There's no need to download a new web browser."(Microsoft Edge):
For example, it doesn't have a "Split Tabs" feature
Oh, and I forgot: "Tab Stacking"!
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@ThePfromtheO Not to speak about "Dashboard" and "Notes"
