AI Assistant to Vivaldi
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Dear Vivaldi Team,
I'm a devoted Vivaldi user and admire the browser's focus on user experience. I'm reaching out to suggest integrating an AI assistant, similar to Brave's Leo Bot, into Vivaldi.
An AI assistant would enhance user experience by offering personalized recommendations, boosting productivity, and providing quick access to information. It would make browsing more intuitive and enjoyable while supporting users with tasks and inquiries.
Thanks,
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@raalapas, I don`t know if this is in the plans of Vivaldi, due to several privacy issues in most AI apps. The only AI which I use is Andisearch(1), which is privacy oriented with an own lenguage model. If the AI isn't developed by the own team, Vivaldi only can use OpenSource models, which are all very basic or are front ends for ChatGPT and others, controlled by big corporations which cost money for it license.
Something which fits what you want is Perplexity, which is also privacy focused and works great in the web panel, as search engine and as assistant. Pro version available with Image search and somewhat better AI.
But as said, it's proprietary and if Vivaldi want to use it, it costs money.(1)
https://andisearch.com/?query=%s
If you have interests in AI, you can find several thousends more in this sites
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We need to find an AI privacy oriented alternative because a lot of people will start defecting back to Chrome if something doesn't happen quick because it's starting to automatically control tabs etc
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I totally agree. Without AI functionality IT will be hard for Vivaldi to compete with other Browsers.
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I asked Jon about it during his AMA and he said that as of now there are no plans to.
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Just use gab.ai ... it's terrific, I think.
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@RiveDroite said in AI Assistant to Vivaldi:
I asked Jon about it during his AMA and he said that as of now there are no plans to.
That's sad!
Edge: Copilot
Chrome: Bard (soon)
Firefox: Mozilla.ai (no ETA)
Brave: Leo
Arc: Max
Opera: Aria
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Vivaldi: ....I've started using Edge increasingly on my mobile because it reads the text on a page and because of Copilot.
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Yes, i need such AI in Vivaldi, so it can generate nice misleading answers for arrogant, dumb and troll persons in forum. Yeah.
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@CooperDad It is hallucinating code libraries for a programming solution, but libs do not exist.
And refining questions give more and more nonsense.
I love AI, i am the better NI. -
As said, Ive enough with Andisearch, IMHO the only AI which is really private and trustworth, which relay not on own inventions, but on reliable sources, maybe also aceptable Perplexity.ai in the Web Panel.
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@Catweazle Thank you for your tip, I have placed both in the web panel and will try them out very curiously in the near future.
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@RiveDroite
There is no request for AI in Vivaldi from current users. I think in order to attract new users to a browser that positions itself as a Swiss knife, you need to implement as many AI functions as possible in advance, otherwise death is inevitable. Now it's a pretty niche browser, but what happens when everyone adds chats, page summarization, video translation, text generation, answers to questions about the page content, and so on? -
@stardepp, I use Andi as my main search, it's in primer line a search engine, but with AI assistant. You can put it in the web panel, but it's better to use it as other normal search engine in the list. Perplexity is better in the Web Panel, because only resume and don't show the search results like Andi, only the icons of the sources.
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That's the great thing about Vivaldi and web panels - Vivaldi does not need to "integrate" anything, users can add their own "AI" service to a web panel. It's the same as when Vivaldi "integrated" Mastodon - basically just adding a default web panel, integration doesn't get much simpler than that
Personally I couldn't care less about so-called artifical "intelligence" and have zero need for such a service in Vivaldi.
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Forgive my ignorance or naivety, but could someone explain to me in which cases those "AI assistants" could help me more than Wikipedia or a simple search in any engine?
Because with Ludwig van Beethoven it doesn't do it at all.
Wikipedia:
Andisearch:
Perplexity:
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@Pathduck, could you please share how pinning а shortcut to the sidebar will be able to do the following:
- To read the content of a page to me with an artificial voice;
- Cleverly organize tabs
- To customize the browser theme with one click.
- To generate text for an email, eg.
The examples may not be the most useful, but the development of AI in browsers is now starting. And it will develop at a tremendous speed, not in 10-15 years...
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@ivan-a-petkov Said:
To read the content of a page to me with an artificial voice;
Install Reader View https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/reader-view/ecabifbgmdmgdllomnfinbmaellmclnh
Cleverly organize tabs
Vivaldi do it Parent-Child , Otto Tabs do it by domain:
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/otto-tabs/pjgajilkdijnbfmglfbpnenocpajmdlbTo customize the browser theme with one click.
Who needs to be changing the browser theme all the time?
To generate text for an email
Generate? I know copy and paste.
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@barbudo2005 said in AI Assistant to Vivaldi:
@ivan-a-petkov Said:
To read the content of a page to me with an artificial voice;
Install Reader View https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/reader-view/ecabifbgmdmgdllomnfinbmaellmclnh
How to install it on my mobile?
Privacy?Cleverly organize tabs
Vivaldi do it Parent-Child , Otto Tabs do it by domain:
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/otto-tabs/pjgajilkdijnbfmglfbpnenocpajmdlbAre you recommending 2 separate functionalities for the same thing?
How to install it on my mobile?
Privacy?To customize the browser theme with one click.
Who needs to be changing the browser theme all the time?
Who would refuse to generate several themes to choose from? And from time to time, according to his needs, to change.
And why not the personalization based on the hour of the day or the mood in a song, a set emoticon or the overall style of the OS or desktop/phone wallpaper...?To generate text for an email
Generate? I know copy and paste.
Imagine having to answer 10-15 emails a day (I won't even get into the shoes of people who answer 50+ emails) and some of the emails grow into a whole correspondence.
Now imagine having to explain the context and copy and paste every time…
I understand the defensive stance "I/We don't need..." In my humble experience, anyone who starts out with such a stance has soon been overtaken by the market they're operating in. Just saying.
Every big or new browser player is launching AI. Whether it's a fad or not, we're yet to find out. But if something happens, then the first will have a significant advantage. The risk of entrepreneurship.
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@barbudo2005 said in AI Assistant to Vivaldi:
Forgive my ignorance or naivety, but could someone explain to me in which cases those "AI assistants" could help me more than Wikipedia or a simple search in any engine?
Because with Ludwig van Beethoven it doesn't do it at all.
Wikipedia:
Andisearch:
Perplexity:
Try with a question, not with a normal item search. LLM "understand" what you are looking for, a normal search engine can't.
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I am not against AI in a browser or search engine, the problem is privacy.
For example, automatic tab grouping send all tabs to Google/Microsoft servers to calculate, the same for any question.
I guess the Vivaldi team cant/want to setup a server farm with 1000 Nvidia GPU to run an own AI, this will not happen.Cheers, mib