AI Assistant to Vivaldi
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As said, Ive enough with Andisearch, IMHO the only AI which is really private and trustworth, which relay not on own inventions, but on reliable sources, maybe also aceptable Perplexity.ai in the Web Panel.
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@Catweazle Thank you for your tip, I have placed both in the web panel and will try them out very curiously in the near future.
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There is no request for AI in Vivaldi from current users. I think in order to attract new users to a browser that positions itself as a Swiss knife, you need to implement as many AI functions as possible in advance, otherwise death is inevitable. Now it's a pretty niche browser, but what happens when everyone adds chats, page summarization, video translation, text generation, answers to questions about the page content, and so on? -
@stardepp, I use Andi as my main search, it's in primer line a search engine, but with AI assistant. You can put it in the web panel, but it's better to use it as other normal search engine in the list. Perplexity is better in the Web Panel, because only resume and don't show the search results like Andi, only the icons of the sources.
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That's the great thing about Vivaldi and web panels - Vivaldi does not need to "integrate" anything, users can add their own "AI" service to a web panel. It's the same as when Vivaldi "integrated" Mastodon - basically just adding a default web panel, integration doesn't get much simpler than that
Personally I couldn't care less about so-called artifical "intelligence" and have zero need for such a service in Vivaldi.
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Forgive my ignorance or naivety, but could someone explain to me in which cases those "AI assistants" could help me more than Wikipedia or a simple search in any engine?
Because with Ludwig van Beethoven it doesn't do it at all.
Wikipedia:
Andisearch:
Perplexity:
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@Pathduck, could you please share how pinning ะฐ shortcut to the sidebar will be able to do the following:
- To read the content of a page to me with an artificial voice;
- Cleverly organize tabs
- To customize the browser theme with one click.
- To generate text for an email, eg.
The examples may not be the most useful, but the development of AI in browsers is now starting. And it will develop at a tremendous speed, not in 10-15 years...
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@ivan-a-petkov Said:
To read the content of a page to me with an artificial voice;
Install Reader View https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/reader-view/ecabifbgmdmgdllomnfinbmaellmclnh
Cleverly organize tabs
Vivaldi do it Parent-Child , Otto Tabs do it by domain:
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/otto-tabs/pjgajilkdijnbfmglfbpnenocpajmdlbTo customize the browser theme with one click.
Who needs to be changing the browser theme all the time?
To generate text for an email
Generate? I know copy and paste.
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@barbudo2005 said in AI Assistant to Vivaldi:
@ivan-a-petkov Said:
To read the content of a page to me with an artificial voice;
Install Reader View https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/reader-view/ecabifbgmdmgdllomnfinbmaellmclnh
How to install it on my mobile?
Privacy?Cleverly organize tabs
Vivaldi do it Parent-Child , Otto Tabs do it by domain:
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/otto-tabs/pjgajilkdijnbfmglfbpnenocpajmdlbAre you recommending 2 separate functionalities for the same thing?
How to install it on my mobile?
Privacy?To customize the browser theme with one click.
Who needs to be changing the browser theme all the time?
Who would refuse to generate several themes to choose from? And from time to time, according to his needs, to change.
And why not the personalization based on the hour of the day or the mood in a song, a set emoticon or the overall style of the OS or desktop/phone wallpaper...?To generate text for an email
Generate? I know copy and paste.
Imagine having to answer 10-15 emails a day (I won't even get into the shoes of people who answer 50+ emails) and some of the emails grow into a whole correspondence.
Now imagine having to explain the context and copy and paste every timeโฆ
I understand the defensive stance "I/We don't need..." In my humble experience, anyone who starts out with such a stance has soon been overtaken by the market they're operating in. Just saying.
Every big or new browser player is launching AI. Whether it's a fad or not, we're yet to find out. But if something happens, then the first will have a significant advantage. The risk of entrepreneurship.
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@barbudo2005 said in AI Assistant to Vivaldi:
Forgive my ignorance or naivety, but could someone explain to me in which cases those "AI assistants" could help me more than Wikipedia or a simple search in any engine?
Because with Ludwig van Beethoven it doesn't do it at all.
Wikipedia:
Andisearch:
Perplexity:
Try with a question, not with a normal item search. LLM "understand" what you are looking for, a normal search engine can't.
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I am not against AI in a browser or search engine, the problem is privacy.
For example, automatic tab grouping send all tabs to Google/Microsoft servers to calculate, the same for any question.
I guess the Vivaldi team cant/want to setup a server farm with 1000 Nvidia GPU to run an own AI, this will not happen.Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin, that's what I said
Ive enough with Andisearch, IMHO the only AI which is really private and trustworth
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@mib2berlin said in AI Assistant to Vivaldi:
I am not against AI in a browser or search engine, the problem is privacy.> Cheers, mib
What is the default search provider tha Vivaldi comes with? Bing is OK but Copilot is not? Just saying...
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I've just received Samsung AI on my phone and I definitely not going to use it! Never! OK, just a little bit like every day... The other thing that I use on regular base is the voice reading of some articles. I use it on Edge. Vivaldi is my main browser, bit I need productivity and time savings.
Hope that some (open-source) alternatives will appear soon....
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@ivan-a-petkov, there are several options you can use with Vivaldi, the above mencioned Andisearch, which at least for me, is highly recommendable. Apart as an good assistant, maybe the Perplexity extension .
Depending for what you need, you can take a look in these sites, where for sure you'll find what fits your needs.- https://www.futuretools.io
- https://www.futurepedia.io/?feature=No+Signup+Required&feature=Browser+Extension&pricing=Free
- https://aifindy.com/recursos-de-inteligencia-artificial (in Spanish !)
- https://huggingface.co/spaces
Tip: At least for the moment, avoid AIs offered by Google
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@Catweazle, thank you for the recommended plugins and sites! They are completely irrelevant to a mobile browser and the use cases that I mentioned above.
I use artificial voice on my mobile phone to read news when I travel. It is extremely convenient. The other scenario that I started using recently is the summary of an article - saves time and makes me more productive. I must use three browsers: Vivaldi as my main non-AI browser, Edge to listen to the articles, Samsung browser to make resumes of the articles.
Waste of time and extra clicks.
Again, I hope ะฐ good open-source alternative emerges because AI is the future and every single browser on the market will implement it soon or later. I'm sure Vivaldi will include similar functionalities.
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My vote is HELL NO to AI in the browser.
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@ivan-a-petkov, I use Andisearch also on mobile with the Vivaldi widget (Search engines of your desktop also synced to Mobile). Apart there are a lot of AI apps for mobile and OpenSource , OpenSource LLM where you can create your own apps, even to use them online, OS irrelevant, with the help of Hugging Face, where you can host it even for free. In Hugging Face Spaces there are tons of functional examples.