5 reasons why a browser and mail combination is worth it.
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Vivaldi Mail is my go to when it comes to Mail. This since its beginning!
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There really needs to be some change in the default behaviour such that I don't have to continually "get back to the index" (F7, F8) after opening an article - which can only be done by taking the mouse to click the "open article" button.
And today... focus doesn't even switch to the feed index by pressing F7 then F9 (I wrote F8 above by mistake)! I literally can't navigate and open articles without using a mouse(pad) now!
I really have to submit a feature request (after checking if I did that already)...
Edit: I had started a thread to discuss it in 2020 - so now I have opened a formal feature request:
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@pesala said:
Design is a subjective experience. At least, Vivaldi offers numerous options for customising the UI to suit one’s personal preferences.Design is a subjective experience. At least, Vivaldi offers numerous options for customising the UI to suit one’s personal preferences.
While true, the default UI for e-mail IS currently an absolute mess, with three separate toolbars (FIVE in composition) and redundant functions galore. What's strange is that M2/Opera Mail was far more elegant than Outlook/Thunderbird, but I guess the process of grafting it on to the current browser just blew the whole thing up (not to mention it was MORE stable in tech preview, and keeps getting worse)
At this point, it would probably be wise to rip it all down and rebuild anew. I know that would be a bit of a headache for current users, but the silver lining is there aren't many current users to get said headache.
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@jdvernet Can't say I'd agree about stability in daily use - that's always been fine for me.
And the only thing I had trouble with - importing and setting up existing mail accounts - seems to work fine now as well.
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@mossman said in 5 reasons why a browser and mail combination is worth it.:
@jdvernet Can't say I'd agree about stability in daily use - that's always been fine for me.
And the only thing I had trouble with - importing and setting up existing mail accounts - seems to work fine now as well.Could be. Personally, I gave up on it (email is a little too important to my job to have little things like gmail no longer working), as did most people here. The few that have stuck with it have had issues from the mundane/annoying (organization glitches, two-pane view STILL broken, calendar STILL displaying as a complete jumble), to the alarming (disappearing/reappearing/re-disappearing messages), to the downright strange (that whole 'one message turning into another message before the user's eyes' thing that I still have no idea what was going on, and am just happy it stopped, at least momentarily).
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I think that the browser should just act as a browser.
Other functions should be provided as plugins, and users who need them should install them themselves, or at least provide a switch that can be completely turned off, so that if there is a problem with this feature, it should not affect the entire browser.
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@jdvernet: I agree, personally I feel that it is a beta.. It still lacks a lot of polish. Especially with its performance that I feel makes everything heavier.
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Thanks! This nicely complements my rumblings of some days ago about Vivaldi client email... https://mcastel.vivaldi.net/2023/06/looking-for-the-perfect-client-and-meeting-vivaldi/
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@bestpika said in 5 reasons why a browser and mail combination is worth it.:
I think that the browser should just act as a browser.
Other functions should be provided as plugins, and users who need them should install them themselves, or at least provide a switch that can be completely turned off, so that if there is a problem with this feature, it should not affect the entire browser.... whcih is exactly how mail in Vivaldi is implemented!
Also, I dislike it when browsers forcefully add functions like this to users.
... don't activate it - then you never see it.
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@hunterklaken said in 5 reasons why a browser and mail combination is worth it.:
@jdvernet: I agree, personally I feel that it is a beta.. It still lacks a lot of polish. Especially with its performance that I feel makes everything heavier.
On my laptops I have never noticed anything. But I must admit that after migrating tens of thousands of mails from Opera 12 to Vivaldi last month, my 14 year old desktop PC shows a bit of processor use while Vivaldi is loaded now... probably not really a big deal unless I wanted to run a heavy game or something at the same time.
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It seems to me a great idea and it says it someone who was user of SeaMonkey, it is very comfortable the truth to have everything in the same place although the only but that I find to Vivaldi Mail is that at least from Windows you cannot open eml files and not even Windows recognizes it as a program to open (if you open it you get raw html text), it is the only thing that it lacks.
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There are Pro and Cons... of course the integration is on my opinion the best way to have a smooth experience but also it forces you to be stuck on what you get by a solution with an horizontal development than vertical.
Dedicated apps are, of course, more rich features and can have a dedicated team and support only focused on their improvements.Anyway for a quick check, I do agree, the combo works.
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@hunterklaken I have been using Vivaldi as my one and only browser for three months now and I use all of it's features.I happen to love it's polished appearance and button placements very much.Devs don't change a thing!
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How I bemoaned the demise of Opera Mail! :crying: But there was hope: Vivaldi Mail beta was shaping up! I used it in many Snapshots, and finally in the Stable. I've come to rely on it:
I'm an old-fashioned guy. I appreciate email providers, but I want my emails stored on my machine. Since I've never lost an email in Vivaldi Mail, I have a sense of security I'd feared I'd lost...
(When I moved to macOS Catalina, I finally started using Mac's Mail. It's not terrible; but it ain't Vivaldi Mail — or Opera Mail — and I still remember the gawd-awful mess importing mails made! I use it -primarily- as a check on my Vivaldi Mail installs.)Keeping Vivaldi Mail in a separate profile makes the most sense, to me. (Something that the old Presto Opera didn't allow...) But I've become as comfortable with it as I'd been with Opera Mail.
Thanks, Team Vivaldi!
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my email provider is another oslo company--runbox.com. I hope ya'll get along. this is the email address i will [email protected]. will this work on vivaldi contacts? Flam, Norway is breath takingly goregous.
