Any word on M3? (internal mail client)
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@derDay said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@felagund said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
how can you count e-mails in M2?
hover at Inbox and you should get a tooltip with the number
Ha, 250k! (some are doubled though due to forwarding, I should fix my IMAP setup)
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@jumpsq said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@felagund Hardly depends on whether you also fetch and store your attachments. For me, the median for a mail is around 9kB and the mean possibly around 60kB per mail. Would be around 30GB for 500k mails.
That is pretty close to what my mail takes in total on disk.
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Since the first technical preview of the vivaldi browser I'm looking forwards to the vivaldi email client M3. I use vivaldi all that time. Sometimes I needed an other browser But now Vivaldi is the only browser I use. I was also a user of opera M2. After every stable release i hope M3 will appear in th next snapshot. Until now it was not the time for it. But
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@Janjoore said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
Since the first technical preview of the vivaldi browser I'm looking forwards to the vivaldi email client M3. I use vivaldi all that time. Sometimes I needed an other browser But now Vivaldi is the only browser I use. I was also a user of opera M2. After every stable release i hope M3 will appear in th next snapshot. Until now it was not the time for it. But
reading this topic I think I have to be patient.Yes, sadly things take longer than what you hope at times. We should have a build for you to test soon, though.
Cheers,
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@jon said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
We should have a build for you to test soon, though.
Why does this remind me of Duke Nukem Forever? Although my guess would be that M3 will turn out better than that game (which I actually never played).
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@jon said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
@Janjoore said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
Since the first technical preview of the vivaldi browser I'm looking forwards to the vivaldi email client M3. I use vivaldi all that time. Sometimes I needed an other browser But now Vivaldi is the only browser I use. I was also a user of opera M2. After every stable release i hope M3 will appear in th next snapshot. Until now it was not the time for it. But
reading this topic I think I have to be patient.Yes, sadly things take longer than what you hope at times. We should have a build for you to test soon, though.
Cheers,
Jon.Can't wait! Quick, maybe dumb, question though: will said test build be a Snapshot or a separate Technical Preview? I hope for a Snapshot
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@Vistaus I think it will appear for one or two snapshot cycles and then will go in stable too (as was made for sync).
Is more in private beta now.. No need for a TP -
For those not keeping up on things, there's a major gmail redesign on the horizon. So, a good time to release that tech preview would be right about now, as a whole lot of people are going to have a whole lot of frustrations with their webmail very, very soon.
just saying...
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@jdvernet A good time, or a really, really bad time. Every time Google changes something on the GMail backend, it breaks M3 (again). A newly-broken M3 that can't negotiate Gmail's already-insanely-difficult IMAP protocols would, I'm sure, be overwhelmingly popular.
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@Ayespy The redesign has little to do with mail, they are trying to stuff their other services onto the gmail page.
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@luetage One hopes it does not impact the GMail backend AT ALL. Forcing GMail OAuth set back M3 by six months all by itself.
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Here's the official announcement thus far and as luetage stated, there's seems to be very little about mail itself, and more about trying to stuff 10 pounds of features into a five pound bag. At first blush, it looks like a complete mess. But who knows, perhaps it's more eloquent in practice? Anyway, in taking the internet's temperature about what's on the horizon, it's seems that a whole lot of people are practically begging for an alternative right about now.
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If Vivaldi can implement Peer-to-Peer file-sharing like Opera Unite, users might have a way to collaborate without sharing their data with Google, or anyone else that do not wish to share with. Zoom has also proved to be at risk of being hacked.
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@jdvernet said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
... as luetage stated, there's seems to be very little about mail itself, and more about trying to stuff 10 pounds of features into a five pound bag. At first blush, it looks like a complete mess. But who knows, perhaps it's more eloquent in practice? ...
Actually, it's a five-pound bag in which everything in it passes under the nose (and through the hands) of Google, whose entire 'reason for being' is to make money off the marketing of user data in one form or another. Personally, it's not a path I'd ever choose to take...
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@purgatori They use it because it's free, the storage is relatively huge, and Google provided it blanket promotion, just like they did Chrome. Hundreds of millions became addicted to GMail back when they still believed in "Don't be evil."
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It is a serious mistake to become addicted to any email address.
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@Pesala And yet, when you have hundreds of customers or business contacts who contact you that way, you do. I even had a customer who kept changing email addresses every few months. I never knew who his emails were coming from, or where to send his results. After a while, I had to resist the impulse to do him physical harm.
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@purgatori Because... baa, baa, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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@Ayespy We are not talking about changing email addresses every month. Maybe every ten years, or whenever it becomes necessary. Then you email your list of contacts with the updated address, and change your email on your social media accounts.
Businesses sometimes have to move their physical address, and reprint letterheads, business cards, etc. Email is no different. Do not let anyone hold you to ransom.
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@Ayespy said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):
Every time Google changes something on the GMail backend, it breaks M3 (again).
A well known Ibm product does the same, breaking many softwares during its upgrades,
the differences are, one do it intentionally.