Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default
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@urfausto said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:
i've seen dev replies in this forum concluding it will never even be discussed.
Do you have any source for this claim?
Please see this post by @Gaelle
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I think there is some confusion. I don't think anyone arguing for the default action to open in the background wants this to be the only choice. We just want the option to make it the default for our browser. Please stop acting like this is our goal. It is unproductive. Why would someone asking for a consideration advocate for taking it from others.
Additionally, I believe the general argument is only for the right click context menu as this is the referenced behavior present in other browsers.
I just switched to Vivaldi and I find it absolutely amazing. But I am bewildered that with all of the tiny tweaks available, this isn't an option.
There have been a number of great suggestions so far. I think being able to reorder/customize the right click menu is interesting and could solve more than just this issue. I also think a setting to change the behavior is pretty straight forward. As many people have pointed out, there are plenty of extensions that do this, but it would be better if I didn't have to sacrifice memory for something so basic.
I also understand that there are other methods to accomplish this. I have been trying to use gestures, but it doesn't feel the best and I frequently open a blank tab instead because I missed the link by some small amount. Then half an hour later I check the tab and I guess whatever was supposed to be there is gone forever.
But that is beside the point. I switched to Vivaldi because of the options. Being able to make Vivaldi the perfect browser for you. And how new tabs open is one of the most central aspects of a browser. The fact that we can't fix this one very frequent action feels so grating when everything else is so good.
Thank you for your consideration
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@buzkie said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:
I believe the general argument is only for the right click context menu as this is the referenced behavior present in other browsers.
That is not what this feature request is about.
@kuu said:
I want to simply set it as the default behaviour and not have to use middle click, context menu, or gestures...
Allow Editing of Menus is the top voted feature request, and one of the oldest. Changing the context menu order to match other browsers would break the workflow for current users, which is not a good idea.
Other suggestions in the thread are just workarounds to use while we are waiting for an option in settings. This thread is in the Settings category of feature requests.
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@Pesala lol sorry my bad. i was referring to old posts i've seen by devs but now i've just saw that this feature along some others which i like a lot too have been moved to pipeline. what does this mean? in progress i guess they are already being actively developed.
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Why is this simple request still not added?
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what a weird reason to deny adding something so basic that every browser follows. At least shift the open in background tab as the default first option.
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@EvilSpark As Gaelle said, although it seems simple to add, it has a lot of potential consequences that make it far from a trivial issue.
Although it is a popular request, it is only one of 2,571 current feature requests. The Vivaldi team is small and has to fix bugs and regressions to keep up with Chromium updates, not to mention producing versions for Linux, MacOS, and the Android browser, and a built-in email client.
Again, Allow Editing of Menus is the most voted for feature request, but it is not a trivial undertaking to implement this. It would solve a number of related issues without creating a new one, which simply moving the background option to the top would do.
Vivaldi is not like other browsers, that is why we use it. It has the same roots as Opera 12.18, which has a fully customisable menu.
@EvilSpark said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:
what a weird reason to deny adding something so basic that every browser follows.
I just checked in FIrefox 75. The default menu there does not even have an option to open a link in a background tab.
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- In order to edit it, one just need to move the function up. It won't even take more than a few minutes to find and do it.
- FIrefox default open in new tab opens in background tab.
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Vivaldi is not like other browsers, that is why we use it.
Not being same does not mean that you just need to make everything different from the basic thing that every browser follow just to make it look unique right? Especially when it hinders the user than to help him. Having multiple options every time is never a good thing.
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+1 (Strangely I didn't upvote this feature)
A native way to do this would be very welcome[I'll write in this space the ones I test]
- Click To Tab: Don't work.
- Link Blanker: Partially work. Don't catch "inpage-links".
- Long Click New Tab: I guess the hold link is "safer" than the other approach. Last update on 2012(!)
Sometimes make harder to drag away links (eg: for bookmarking) - Tabloc: Work. Sort of. (Seems to have bugs however)
Note: The "inpage-links" also will make open in new tabs every button you click. Which is quite unwanted. Last updated on 2015.
I fear Gaelle have right
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@Hadden89 Nope. Nothing changed because its super complex feature and will take too much time to fix it.
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@Hadden89 i have tried every possible option/extension and there is not. the closest behaviour you can get is to have leave it as default. i have renounced all extensions for the issues you too mentioned.
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Hi,
I'm what is probably going to be one of a small wave of users incoming after the forced Megabar changes in Firefox, especially since the new upcoming release is eliminating the option to remove it. This behaviour from a browser isn't something I'm willing to adapt to, unfortunately. I'm on a laptop exclusively, so no middle click, and I'm not going to re-learn a keyboard shortcut to replace what's essentially been muscle memory since the introduction of tabbed browsing.
Also, for all I'm reading about overwhelming customizability there seem to be feature requests for this going back to 2016, so I guess I'll follow the Vivaldi twitter and hope that there's an announcement and in the meantime I'll jump over to Waterfox.
Even a clunky workaround like simply overriding that behaviour and leaving both options in the menu would be good enough!
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@Subduction Menus will become customizable, and users will be able to set this for themselves. That's a major project, however, and will come out (perhaps in stages) when it's ready. Whenever that is will be "too slow" for a number of users, I'm sure.
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@Ayespy said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:
@Subduction Menus will become customizable, and users will be able to set this for themselves. That's a major project, however, and will come out (perhaps in stages) when it's ready. Whenever that is will be "too slow" for a number of users, I'm sure.
Again, there have been posts about this since 2016. As someone trying out a new alternative that's not very reassuring that something that's absolutely critical to myself and from reading around here and reddit a substantial number of others. I'm not a dev, it's not my browser, and I have no right to demand something of the people who make this browser available to us for free, but now is probably a decent window to get power users fed up with Mozilla going walled-garden on their UX and this clearly is a sticking point for a lot of people.
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@Subduction Please see this post by Gaëlle, the Community Manager.
The PIPELINE tag does not mean that this feature won't ever be added, but it does mean that they are not actively working on it.
There are several viable workarounds already mentioned above. That is the best anyone can offer you currently.
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@Pesala said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:
There are several viable workarounds already mentioned above.
"Just do it in a different way" is not a viable workaround when the explicit issue many people have is "I don't want to do it a different way after doing the same thing for ~20 years".
And respectfully, it's the best anyone can offer with Vivaldi. That's not the same as the best anyone can offer.