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@MattSolo45 Can't really talk about features. All I can say is, if you try it when it comes out, you might find it does what you want - without add-ons.
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@Ayespy Well, this had nothing to do with the browser you used apparently, but it doesn't make any sense to discuss it, since I can't compare.
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@Folgore101 I don't need an adblocker, I am rooted and have an edited hosts file. Blocking popups is standard on many mobile browsers, this isn't innovative by any stretch. Oh well, we will see. But I am willing to predict that the new Firefox mobile will be hard to beat in terms of UI.
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@luetage What's the new Firefox mobile? Firefox Focus, Firefox Preview or none of these?
"Non è tanto chi sei quanto quello che fai che ti qualifica" - "Il coraggio non è la mancanza di paura ma bensì la consapevolezza che qualcosa sia più importante della paura stessa" - Vivaldi il browser che si adatta all'utente
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@Folgore101 said in Mobile Browser Version:
@luetage Firefox Preview
It's still unfinished and missing features, but promising. Almost wish they wouldn't bring back extensions, but it's planned.
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I use the Brave Browser in my smartphone, include adblocker and no track..
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@luetage Okay, i tried it a month ago and i'm actually missing a few things that i think are useful. Not needing Sync, for my use, i still prefer Via Browser but i have high expectations for Vivaldi Mobile.
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Summary information about the Vivaldi Mobile release
Maybe this is the best time to release Vivaldi Mobile? It's been almost 2/3 years now and wait a while longer is not a cool option for users. Anyway, I know you'll say not ready yet this and that but you use this browser so your hunger has been satisfied and it's easier for you to wait for a refined version. But more likely the one who hasn't seen the gift and not the one who's already seen what he'll get but has to wait a little longer for his gift so it's calmer. yes I know better is the surprise but I'd rather not wait for this surprise the next day/month or another year... -
@MattSolo45 you know that insisting on asking for it doesn't make it happen earlier? What if they don't know themselves and don't want to make promises they can't fulfil?
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@iAN-CooG Vivaldi is a product whose slogan is Browser for our friends or Created for the freedom of the user so I can write what I think. So if it's for us, why doesn't Vivaldi inform us about the progress of work, e.g. mobile version, or anything else, until they say it's good. With not one other company or programmer with a similar system of values I can easily learn about how the work goes and what will be done next.
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@MattSolo45 said in Mobile Browser Version:
why doesn't Vivaldi inform us about the progress of work, e.g. mobile version,
Actually, you are informed about progress of work. You were informed when it was in development, you have been informed that it is in testing, you have heard from Jon that he anticipates it will be out this year, but it is impossible to predict what state it will reach by what time.
I can attest from what is now years of experience, that receiving daily changelogs on the progress of a software product can be quite misleading for a user or a tester in estimating how far we have come and how far we have to go. At times, months worth of work has to be discarded and a fresh start taken when it comes to this or that aspect of the product, because although the prior direction of development could lead to a product, it would never be a satisfactory one. And to stick to one path because "we've come too far to change now" is simply short-sighted.
We see evidence of this in the histories of Windows, Chrome, multiple AV products, Quickbooks, MS Office, and software products too numerous to mention. Their management makes a work plan and sticks to it, even when it leads to an inferior result.
So what Vivaldi does is let us know when things are ready, not when they are 66% ready, because today's 66% may turn into tomorrow's 15%, and then imagine the outcry.
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That said, everyone is welcome to express themselves in a friendly and civil fashion. Everyone is free to put in their two cents worth. And no matter what users post, the developers will continue to do their level best to get out each product and each feature as soon as they possibly can, irrespective of the clamor outside the door. Vivaldi is developed "for" our friends, but not "by" our friends.
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In a workshop in my town there is a sign, which says "We have 3 ways of working, fast, good and cheap. The customer can choose 2 of them'. With Vivaldi I also like the result to be of quality, although it takes longer to do so.
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@MattSolo45 I'm sorry to read that you feel angry and disappointed about Vivaldi's latest development. While I understand your frustration, please bear in mind that it takes time to build a good product (Firefox, Chrome, Internet Explorer and Opera took more than 10 years to be where they are today). We’re still a small team. Sorry for testing your patience but please don’t hurry in dropping us right away. We are extremely close to our android launch. We would not want to loose you. As genuine is your feedback and disappointment, your constructive feedback for our mobile is extremely critical for us. We request you to stay on. There are good times ahead.
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@gaelle This is another answer, which is intended to take the subject further away. I'm more interested in why Vivaldi, although he might not show up a little bit his mobile version. Everyone knows it's not finished yet and it'll take some time before it's okay. What stands in the way of me showing it? Vivaldi's fear of a competition that will copy the solutions? Although they will do it anyway. Fear that a given option will not be available for release or will disappear temporarily? I think we live in times when we see that something was cut out because it wasn't ready or just didn't fit (especially in the game development process). So I don't know and I don't understand why Vivaldi won't do it. It's just stupid. You want users to respect peace of mind and give developers time to work quietly, and at the same time the time they give users is less important to you. For example, I don't want to give time now for something that will be later, so I prefer to put it off and devote time to what is now and thus do not waste time on a great expectation because someone said so. And further translations from @Ayespy or @Catweazle are redundant, because whoever is sitting on the forum already knows their standard formulas for defending Vivaldi and it leads to the same thing all the time.
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We all look forward to the version for Android (and iPhone), but we know that it involves a lot of work to have more than just a browser more like other dozens in the appstore. Ok, knowing the development status may be interesting for some users, but for most it would not be relevant, rather than observing a very slow download bar. Surely we would be the first to have the information when the first version is ready for use, before appearing in the store. It makes no sense to ask repeatedly "How much is still missing?"
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@MattSolo45 On the contrary. @gaelle said we're extremely close to launch. I'm glad she did say it, because that's one of those things we testers actually don't know, and couldn't say if we did. I'm pleased to hear it's extremely close. @gaelle would not say it if it weren't so.
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This makes sense. I would get out a version of mobile to interns and testers before the big summer break collecting lots of feedback. After the summer break (which ended last week) there is time to look at the feedback and work on the bugs for some weeks before getting out the first public mobile version.
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The Android version is the only thing holding me back from using Vivaldi daily (a bit faster on pc would be nice tho). I hope the developers are satisfied with the work
