Considering to use Vivaldi mail instead of Thunderbird
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Hello again,
after a little bit "try and error" in the settings from Vivaldi for Linux I am seriously considering to use the mail-client too.
Before I make a change I'd like to read your experiences with the Vivaldi mail client. Does it work firm and steady? IIRC there were in the past (side note...this is already some time ago, things could have changed) some problems with the mail client.
I can't specify which issues were addressed in detail but I know that some members had complaints. Sorry, if this is too generic.
Currently I am using Thunderbird and IMAP for my accounts and it works well. On the other hand I intend to get accustomed to Vivaldi Linux and hence of course the implemented mail client.
Does the Vivaldi mail client "know" the common server settings and relevant ports? For example google, freenet.
I'd appreciate every input, THX in advance!
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@VivaldiFan2023
Hi, I use the Vivaldi mail client since the first beta and the team really fixed a lot of bugs and small issues in it since then.
Freenet, Yahoo, Gmail, Outlook and Vivaldi mail accounts are all work out of the box.
As you use IMAP you can add your main account to Vivaldi and check it out.
The workflow is different than other mail clients, it depends on your workflow if it is usable for you or a nightmare.Cheers, mib
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I've been using it as long as I've been using Vivaldi, about 18 months now, without problems. It's fine. I've never used Thunderbird so I can't compare, but certainly it suits me, as to be honest does the new MS Outook. I tend to jump between Vivaldi and MD Edge/Outlook, and I can work happily with either.
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Lol, THX @mib2berlin for the fast response. I really didn't doubted that Vivaldi mail wouldn't be able to address the most common provider but I thought it couldn't hurt to ask.
I am very spoiled from TB but normally every modern mail client should handle the server settings with some sort of a setup-wizard.
I give it a try and I will tell you how I come to terms with it.
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Thanks for your answer as well. You both convinced me to try it. It's a good time bc tomorrow is my last day on duty. I'm off duty over Easter.
I prefer to keep my head clear for such things.
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Update:
I did it. Currently a little bit overwhelmed from that many features and possible settings.
I try to get used to it.
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@VivaldiFan2023 there is no problem running Thunderbird concurrently if you use IMAP.
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I'd like to use Vivaldi mail only, but I still can't.
Vivaldi has some shortcomings that are important to me:
- the contacts manager is, really, really, really, limited. Without group lists and Carddav access I can't use it;
- Vivaldi mail has a nasty bug and cannot show some emails that are fowarded or otherwise attached to other ones;
- Vivaldi, AFAIK, cannot open eml files from local disk, but can read them in its account structure. It's a rather strange thing.
So far I have to keep around Thunderbird because in some cases I won't be able to read incoming emais.
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Well, right now I can't tell whether I use the mail-client from Vivaldi permanent instead of TB.
I think it's a "mind-thing". But like I said...I give it a try and some time. I also needed some time to get used to Thunderbird. Same applies for Vivaldi Mail-Client.
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@snertev said in Considering to use Vivaldi mail instead of Thunderbird:
I'd like to use Vivaldi mail only, but I still can't.
Vivaldi has some shortcomings that are important to me:
- the contacts manager is, really, really, really, limited. Without group lists and Carddav access I can't use it;
- Vivaldi mail has a nasty bug and cannot show some emails that are fowarded or otherwise attached to other ones;
- Vivaldi, AFAIK, cannot open eml files from local disk, but can read them in its account structure. It's a rather strange thing.
So far I have to keep around Thunderbird because in some cases I won't be able to read incoming emais.
The issue relating to EML files, has previously been reported, the developers are aware of it.
As for the mail client not showing emails that are forwarded, I am not seeing this behavior. Forwarded emails are properly in the Sent folder after they are sent. E-mails attached to other e-mails, this could be related to the EML issue.
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@VivaldiFan2023 It might work fine but it heavily depends on your needs.
Add one of your less used IMAP accounts, test for a while and see if it suits to you. -
@edwardp said in Considering to use Vivaldi mail instead of Thunderbird:
The issue relating to EML files, has previously been reported, the developers are aware of it.
As for the mail client not showing emails that are forwarded, I am not seeing this behavior.
I believe the specific case(*) of Outlook users forwarding mails as EML attachments is being referred to... i.e. it's the same bug (not displaying EML files).
(*) I personally find this a very annoying way of doing things anyway, FWIW.
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Oh yeah, and I'll add my voice to the list of satisfied users since the beginning.
The UI for feeds is annoying - especially using keyboard - but apart from that everything works fine!
My only problem in the past was getting some of my wife's accounts to connect but I think those are all resolved.
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@mossman said in Considering to use Vivaldi mail instead of Thunderbird:
@edwardp said in Considering to use Vivaldi mail instead of Thunderbird:
The issue relating to EML files, has previously been reported, the developers are aware of it.
As for the mail client not showing emails that are forwarded, I am not seeing this behavior.
I believe the specific case(*) of Outlook users forwarding mails as EML attachments is being referred to... i.e. it's the same bug (not displaying EML files).
(*) I personally find this a very annoying way of doing things anyway, FWIW.
The different issue I had with EML files, was that an e-mail list I am on, processed e-mails from Gmail addresses as EML attachments and Vivaldi Mail displayed them as such.
If I opened the EML attachment from Vivaldi Mail, Kmail (part of the KDE desktop on Linux) would open - even though it was never configured and display the message text in a separate window.
A change made to the backend of the e-mail list software, corrected this issue.
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@edwardp said in Considering to use Vivaldi mail instead of Thunderbird:
@snertev said in Considering to use Vivaldi mail instead of Thunderbird:
I'd like to use Vivaldi mail only, but I still can't.
Vivaldi has some shortcomings that are important to me:
- the contacts manager is, really, really, really, limited. Without group lists and Carddav access I can't use it;
- Vivaldi mail has a nasty bug and cannot show some emails that are fowarded or otherwise attached to other ones;
- Vivaldi, AFAIK, cannot open eml files from local disk, but can read them in its account structure. It's a rather strange thing.
So far I have to keep around Thunderbird because in some cases I won't be able to read incoming emais.
The issue relating to EML files, has previously been reported, the developers are aware of it.
As for the mail client not showing emails that are forwarded, I am not seeing this behavior. Forwarded emails are properly in the Sent folder after they are sent. E-mails attached to other e-mails, this could be related to the EML issue.
I've used the wrong word: read "display" rather than "show". Some forwarded emails (emails attached to other emails) are shown in folders tree but their content is not displayed (a blank email).
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@mossman said in Considering to use Vivaldi mail instead of Thunderbird:
@edwardp said in Considering to use Vivaldi mail instead of Thunderbird:
The issue relating to EML files, has previously been reported, the developers are aware of it.
As for the mail client not showing emails that are forwarded, I am not seeing this behavior.
I believe the specific case(*) of Outlook users forwarding mails as EML attachments is being referred to... i.e. it's the same bug (not displaying EML files).
(*) I personally find this a very annoying way of doing things anyway, FWIW.
Not only that.
Spamassassin, for examples, attaches eml files to its informative email in my hosting provider service.
And other encrypted system do the same thing,, even when the mail is simply digitally signed and not truly encrypted.
All these emails are not correctly displayed from Vivaldi mail.
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I've also been using the mail client from the beginning and it's very reliable for me now. That's exactly why I came to Vivaldi. I was already familiar with the integrated mail client from Opera, but Opera unfortunately got rid of it.
The contacts in Vivaldi sidebar have to be entered individually. This is not a problem in my case because my mail traffic is quite small.
I recently installed Evolution for other reasons, mainly to use the integrated address book. It is CARDDAV-capable and synchronises with vivaldi.net server and smartphone.
Evolution is basically structured quite similarly to Thunderbird. If you have maintained an address book in TB, it makes sense to run TB alongside it.
If a contact in the address book has an email address that has not yet been added to Vivaldi - Contacts, for example, I can click on this address and the compose window (from Evolution) opens directly, similar to TB. -
Hi again,
after some time using Vivaldi mail I have to admit I like it. In a way Vivaldi was familiar. Like @Dancer18 already stated I also used prior Opera and the included mail-client.
Only thing I changed was to hide some folders on the mail panel, at the first glance it was overwhelming. Additional I don't need everything.
My mail contacts are few, so there was not much to adapt. Of course there will be some things in the future with which I'll be confronted, but one step after the other. In the moment I am satisfied.