Well now you know you can't trust Yandex

greybeard

According to this article from Reuters News Yandex has been almost (95%) completely sold to the Russian government.
"Its co-founder Arkady Volozh, who moved from Russia to Israel in 2014... leading some within the Kremlin to push to nationalise Yandex,"

I didn't know where to put this, but Yandex have a browser... If mods need to move it to a more appropriate space, then please do so.

luetage

Not sure why anyone in the West ever felt the need to use Yandex. I believe the people still using it are fine with it, the circumstances have been known for years.

Ayespy

@luetage It never occurred to me for two seconds to trust or use Yandex.

greybeard

@Ayespy said in Well now you know you can't trust Yandex:

@luetage It never occurred to me for two seconds to trust or use Yandex.

Me either... but I try to keep an open mind.
There was a Russian service I used many years ago from Opera apps. Book reviews, was it(?) maybe.
Too long ago, my four brain cells ain't as quick anymore.
Thought it might br interesting to someone. Maybe not.

Catweazle

Well, that Yandex isn't privacy friendly and filter datas to the Russina gov is nothing new, but the question is, if at least for normal
occidental users is worse to filter data to the russian gov, using Yandex, or to US gov and half the advertising companies in the web, using Chrome, Google or Edge. Bing.
I occasionally use Yandex as an image search engine, because it is by far the best and most complete in this regard.

stardepp

@Catweazle said in Well now you know you can't trust Yandex:

I occasionally use Yandex as an image search engine, because it is by far the best and most complete in this regard.

That's exactly how I do it too.

Catweazle

@TheCelticCross, I prefer to separate the people or companies of a country from the government that suffer. I don't like globalizing. Yes, Yandex may pass data to the government (Google, MS and Apple do it too), but we also have users from Russia here on the forum who do not have to feel discriminated against by the excesses of their president and the government they have.

DoctorG

The Yandex search engine was never serious, it attacked servers and grabbed what it like, even if restricted by robots standards.

aminought

@DoctorG Proofs?

sedative29rus

@TheCelticCross said in Well now you know you can't trust Yandex:

responsible for the most devastating wars in recent years

Stop watching TV, lol

DoctorG

@aminought said in Well now you know you can't trust Yandex:

@DoctorG Proofs?

Yo do not need to defend bad robots.

As a server admin i do not need to proof.
Server logs showed Yandex IP search engine visits on content is was not allowed to., hammering on same URLs many times in 1 minute.

aminought

@DoctorG I do not need to trust you without proofs.

DoctorG

@aminought This as a example.

See

Log:
[95.108.213.183] GET https://*****.com/blog/tags/bash?-tags=bash Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; YandexBot/3.0; +http://yandex.com/bots)

RIPE:

inetnum:        95.108.213.0 - 95.108.213.255
netname:        YANDEX-95-108-213
status:         ASSIGNED PA
country:        RU
descr:          Yandex enterprise network
admin-c:        YNDX1-RIPE
tech-c:         YNDX1-RIPE
remarks:        INFRA-AW
org:            ORG-YA1-RIPE
mnt-by:         YANDEX-MNT
source:         RIPE
created:        2017-01-13T11:09:32Z
last-modified:  2022-04-05T15:31:32Z

robots.txt:

# Yandex
User-agent: Yandex
Disallow: /*reloadit=*
Disallow: /*-tags=*
Allow: /apple-touch-icon.png
Allow: /favicon.ico

Yandex does not follow robot standards

greybeard

@TheCelticCross said in Well now you know you can't trust Yandex:

I wouldn't like to support a firm that in all probability will take their part in financing Russia's war against Ukraine. And if Russian people are here and reading it, they shouldn't feel discriminated, but glad to read the truth.

Agreed.

CooperDad

I like people from all over the world, but I do not trust most governments. Nowadays, most governments don't have the best interests of the people in mind. It's all about personal empowerment/enrichment at the expense of the people -- too many government actors aligned with world-domination-subjection groups which I won't name for now.

Peace and freedom on earth and in the hearts of all peoples, I pray.

greybeard

@CooperDad said in Well now you know you can't trust Yandex:

Peace and freedom on earth and in the hearts of all peoples, I pray.

Reply

Agreed.

Catweazle

@DoctorG, maybe after Bing Chat and Google Bard, also apears an YandexKGB

greybeard

@TheCelticCross
Not discussing politics... Just mentioning that a browser has already / or will soon become State Owned.
Doesn't really matter which state, it is more a comment on the "state" of the internet.

wintercoast

@luetage I use the search engine from time to time. Surprisingly, it's actually the least politically biased of all the search engines - or at least out of the those that are based on Google or Microsoft's web indexes (which is most of them). Someone ran an experiment on a bunch of search engines about two years ago and concluded this. I've also since confirmed it anecdotally on certain political search terms, that are not even especially "way out there."

jadsfy

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