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How much memory does Vivaldi use with just 7 tabs open?
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How much memory does Vivaldi use with just 7 tabs open? Someone complained that Vivaldi uses too much memory on a M2 MBA and makes it heat up. So I checked on my 2018 Intel i7 MBP, which of course doesn't get heated up at all. Running Sonoma Beta.
Vivaldi appears to have so many helpers. All that memory usage adds up to 1.39GB, but the App memory shown below is 6.07GB. No idea how to understand this.
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@chdsl Hi, this depends on the OS and how the task manager shows processes. Check the browser task manager what these PIDs actually are (Menu > Tools > Task Manager).
Renderer processes are usually opened tabs or extension processes. No idea why they're called "Helper" on MacOS.
There's usually a couple "spare" renderer processes as well as some utility processes (Network/Storage) and the Vivaldi "App" process.
Each subframe (iframes) also has its own process - so on sites with a lot of ads you'd see a lot of processes, each ad living in its own subframe.
The GPU process is usually the big user of memory.No idea about your "App Memory" and what it means on MacOS. My guess it's memory including used cache. It's really up to the user to understand how their OS' memory management works and how it's displayed in their "task manager".
I'm on Windows and Vivaldi looks like this with 7 tabs open and 4 extensions:
The big one is 984 (GPU process).
Private Bytes/Working Set are Windows OS specific memory counters.
https://stackoverflow.com/a/1986486/202114 -
@Pathduck
Thank you for replying. I'm new to MacOS, so still learning. I wouldn't have looked for this Activity Monitor stuff, if I didn't see the post complaining the memory usage and heating of a MBA with an M2 chip. I just wouldn't have, for the Macbook is completely cool and all apps are working smoothly.By the way, in MacOS, the Menu > Tools > Task Manager doesn't open.
Maybe tomorrow, I'll use the MBP only on battery to check if Vivaldi drains the battery, using the same 7-8 tabs and the other apps as today. There appears to be few such battery drain complains from Mac users,
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@chdsl said in How much memory does Vivaldi use with just 7 tabs open?:
By the way, in MacOS, the Menu > Tools > Task Manager doesn't open.
What do you mean - it's not there in the menu, or nothing happens?
Try using Shift+ESC instead.
Or look through the keyboard settings what Task Manager is set to on your system.
Or use Quick Commands F2 and type "Task manager" and open from there.If you're going to compare if a browser drains battery make sure to do a fair comparison between browsers. Clean profiles, no extensions, same tabs open and active in all browsers and doing the same things and compare over time. Battery drain is also a pretty meaningless metric, as it depends on stuff like your battery's age. Use CPU-usage and gather data over time.
The post you're referring to is:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/84748/mac-os-13-2-1-high-cpu-usage-battery-drain
From March this year, with version 5.7. -
@Pathduck
Thanks, the shortcut opened the Task Manager.No, I am not going to compare the web browsers. Just want to check if Vivaldi would drain the battery fast(er). I know how long the MBP ran with Safari and the same other apps on battery, from 100% to 36% bit nearly 7 hours. This is a ~4 year old laptop.
If the battery drains faster, then I'd have to report it back to Vivaldi developers, for I'd like to keep on using Vivaldi. Only, I don't know how to send feedback.
There's a whole lot of Intel Macbooks out there.
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@chdsl Are you sure the Vivaldi Task Manager doesn't open from the menu?
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@OakdaleFTL
Yes, it doesn't. Maybe Vivaldi is not yet ready for Sonoma... -
Yeah... It's been seen to have completely inoperable menus, which is worrisome. But, as with your experience, the shortcuts work. Reportedly.
(I don't have a dog in the fight: My hardware has me maxed out withCatalina!
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@chdsl As to your original question (and, specifically, in light of @Pathduck's informative post), my stance is... ambivalent. From habits of thought formed back when 64K was a lot of RAM, I first look to a program's memory usage in terms of frugality. But nowadays I am (I think) more reasonable, thinking "If nothing bogs down, it's best to leave such details to the OS."
But I still worry about unexplained increases in usage...
BTW: Here's what I consider decent stats...
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@OakdaleFTL said in How much memory does Vivaldi use with just 7 tabs open?:
But nowadays I am (I think) more reasonable, thinking "If nothing bogs down, it's best to leave such details to the OS."
I agree there. I'm sure the OS will look after the 'problem,' but I'd still like to check how the battery stands with Vivaldi usage. Maybe, not tomorrow or the day after, for at least 4 hours I'd be without the MBP, so it would be next Monday. I want to use the same tabs, and the same apps that I use everyday for at least 7 hours on battery. If the battery goes down to 36% faster, then I'd know something is wrong.
But I still worry about unexplained increases in usage...
Don't we all...
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Used the MBP for 1 and 1/2 hours on battery with 7 tabs open (and Skype as usual), and with nothing else on the battery level dropped from 100 to 82% during that time. The MBP (2018, 15" i7, touch bar) was slightly warm on the strip above the keyboard and on the left side. I left the MBP sleeping from 10:30 till 12:30 (had to go out). It had gone down to 79% in that time. At 15:15 and the battery level was 37%. The battery lost 60% charge (minus that sleeping time) for just 4 and 1/4 hours, while on Vivaldi. This is not much, as with Safari running, I could get ~7 hours on battery (or more) when the charge level reaches 37%. (I'll check this again with Safari next week. Just curiosity.)
There maybe few matters to ponder about here; it could be Vivaldi not yet adapted to Sonoma Beta, or it could be Sonoma beta not good yet with the battery usage.
Whatever it is, I'll be using the MBP always on power adapter, as it rarely leaves the table. Battery is quite good at 92% capacity and with just 205 cycles. True, it'd be a headache to create and maintain a browser for Intel and ARM chips. But, Intel is all over the world, in Windows and Linux, and in Macs. Hope Vivaldi for Intel will be maintained for sometime (or forever).
