Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home
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@ayespy: "Truth Social ripped off Mastodon software". I honestly don't believe you that "devs have been pushing the idea for literally years, and only recently has it seemed that Mastodon might be developing meaningful reach" and they're just innocently, minding their own business, moving now at the height of the Left's anger at the new Twitter ownership.
But, you know what, it honestly matters to me only to the extent to when tools of mine begin to become enmeshed in a political ideology and the developer begins hosting leftist (or rightist) seminars, workshops, etc all in the name of "what's good for the planet" and "what's right" -- instead of focusing on their job, developing a superb browser. You said that's not their intent. Good. I hope it's not.
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@ayespy: @joeyserio5: One other thing, regarding this idea of "Social home away from Big Tech", help me understand how Vivaldi, and their users, lose by having a "social home" on these other platforms, including Twitter. Specifically, how will this new Mastodon instance provide me, a longtime Vivaldi user, a better experience or support than what Vivaldi could provide me through their Twitter account?
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@joeyserio5 Jon has specifically written about this, how devs on his staff (he mentioned two names as I recall) have been pushing the idea for over two years. As I know Jon, I trust him not to just make stuff up. He's done two, maybe three articles explaining the decision.
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@joeyserio5 The Mastodon membership, were you to sign in for it, I don't think would be expected to improve your Vivaldi experience at all. It's not supposed to. It's just an opportunity for community members to participate in a social network that does not spy on them. Privacy is kind of a big Vivaldi thing. But it's just the sort of thing Jon/Vivaldi does. Vivaldi Technologies AS provides, along with the browser, a free community forum, free blog space, free webmail, sponsors a youth soccer team in Reykjavik, Iceland, runs a startup incubator named Innovation House in Reykjavik and Gloucester, MA, USA, etc. Jon, the founder, is kind of all about community. It's also his way of earning good will. He is also a lot about privacy and has written volumes on the subject of banning surveillance advertising and getting Big Tech out of the business of exploiting personal data.
So the Mastodon thing is nothing more than, "Oh, hey, look! Here is a social platform without spying and without advertising! We are going to help it out by running a server (or three) so that it can expand, and if any of our community members want to look in, you can sign on using your Vivaldi credentials." It is exactly the kind of thing one would expect Jon to do, given his history in the tech space.
So that, in a lot of words, boils down to just this: It's. Just. Another. Offering. It's also likely to increase Vivaldi's exposure, may lead to more good will and some greater usership, and the more users Vivaldi has, the more secure its future is. The idea of using it as a Vivaldi support platform (one of the accidental consequences of having a Twitter account) has not to my knowledge, come up anywhere.
I personally have never used Instagram, TickTock, Twitter or any of these and can't think how or why I would. I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends and family and for business exposure. I have looked in on the Mastodon space and can't think for now, just how it might interest me or be of some use to me. No one I know is on there (except some of my Vivaldi connections) and no one I know is likely to look for me there. I may think of something, but so far, no. But I have seen a pretty fair number of people over there with vivaldi.net IDs, who seem to be enjoying themselves, so good on 'em! Jon has offered them something they like - and I think that is what he meant to do.
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Hello, everyone! I'm Farel. I'm interesting to join Mastodon.
But, there are some question that I asked before I join that:- How to create Mastodon account using my Vivaldi account?
- Which Mastodon is banned in my country, Indonesia?
- What can I share in my Mastodon account (e.g. my drawing or short stories)?
I usually use some of many social media, such as Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. But for each of their usage, I will breakdown here:
-Recently, I used Facebook to search post-mortem and sleep photo (replacement for Instagram). Previously, I rarely use it
-For Twitter, this is my main social media. I used it for news update (especially Ukraine), weather, and more
-But for Instagram, I now rarely use it because of my trauma getting HTTP Error 429 and their spam avoidance policy that I don't like it. Probably is solved, but I can't contact any of Instagram staff, including its head, Adam Mosseri.
I'm sorry to share this. But, I wait for your respond.
Thank you
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@frlvivaldi To join, visit https://social.vivaldi.net/home and sign in with your existing Vivaldi account (do not use create account option). Check out server rules for content you can post.
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Hi guys,
I must be blind - is there an option to turn 2-factor authentication for Vivaldi Social? -
@eggcorn: Gab isn't on Mastodon anymore, Mastodon devs and client devs essentially blocked any access to Gab's instance of mastodon.
Everything else I agree with you. -
@thequantumalpha: Truth Social is just Trump saying what he wants and having the antis repost and reeee about it on Twitter and now Mastodon.
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@jon: I think going with Matrix would have been a way better play. It would not only promote it as an actual federated messaging app and would have made it way more accessible but also get more people interested in joining and trying it out, it would undercut Telegram, Whatsapp or Signal.
Plus you could have a main Vivaldi group to post everything you would on Vivaldi Social. I'm not interested in Mastodon for it's quackery and not interested in joining yet another social media. Personally I didn't appreciate seeing Mastodon tagged to sidebar on Vivaldi. -
@luetage: I see no point in it would have been better served doing an instance of Matrix, this is a whole lot of work for practically nothing imo.
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@doctorg: irrelevant to OPs post. You can make one though.
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@krzysztofdrozdowski
Hello, welcome here.You can easily log in to the new Vivaldi-Mastodon with your Vivaldi account, which you have.
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@ingolftopf Thanks a lot, but it's not an answer to my question. I do have a Vivaldi account which I use to log in to vivaldi.social; I want to increase security of the account by enabling 2-factor authentication, but I cannot find that option.
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Gab', the ultra-right network from the USA, runs a Mastodon server. Mastodon is free, open source software, anyone can install it on a server.
Gab's Mastodon is blocked by almost all other Mastodon instances in the world.
This means that almost no other Mastodon server federated with Gab-Mastodon.
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@krzysztofdrozdowski said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:
I want to increase security of the account by enabling 2-factor authentication, but I cannot find that option.
This option does not (yet?) exist there.
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Thank you Vivaldi for setting up and running your own Mastodon server.
This takes the pressure off the currently overflowing Mastodon and fits very well with Vivaldi.
Very lots of new participants there.
I would not have thought soo.
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@Artex Matrix doesn’t equal Mastodon. You’re missing the point. The instance has 11k active users now, I doubt it was for nothing. This is great advertisement and engagement with a community. No one forces you to use it however, I’m not too keen on social media myself. Just ignore it.
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@ingolftopf said in Introducing Vivaldi Social, your new federated social-networking home:
Gab', the ultra-right network from the USA, runs a Mastodon server. Mastodon is free, open source software, anyone can install it on a server.
Gab's Mastodon is blocked by almost all other Mastodon instances in the world.
This means that almost no other Mastodon server federated with Gab-Mastodon.
Trump also runs a Mastodon server.I guess totally free-speech is viewed as "ultra-right" these days ...
Vivaldi Social would do itself a favor if they heeded the words here of this wise pastor:
https://twitter.com/scottsauls/status/1598457260082085891?s=20&t=bDdNwPIeXHy8EuSLv-zwJQ -
@treego , no, the extreme right uses the expression censored free speech, when they are criticized for hate speech and homophobic, xenophobic and sexist discrimination.
It's not the same.
