Dead area around the edge of the window, cannot close browser in upper-right corner

becm

@Gwen-Dragon this exact problem should only occur if the WindowManager does not report the maximized state to Vivaldi.

Existing problems with dead area on non-maximized native window prevents users with ~~misbehaving~~ creative window managers to use this as a workaround.

becm

@mozlima @sikuri problem in fullscreen is a unfixed known cross-platform bug (VB-39995).

WindowsToLinux

Hilarious.

Even when I posted above what the Linux developers need to do as a default to achieve usability parity with the Windows version, this dumb issue (from 2016) still stands today (2021).

I stumbled on this forum again by sheer coincidence when another Linux user (from elsewhere) was complaining about this very issue.

My goodness, and it's such an easy fix too. Just make it a default...

mib2berlin

@windowstolinux
Hi again, I guess the problem is the developer don´t read the forum, you have to make a bug report about the issue.
Some user report design/usability issues to the bug tracker and sometimes the devs "fix" it.
I will check your css snippet to understand what the issue already is. I don't even notice a problem using Vivaldi on a daily base.

Cheers, mib
EDIT: Ah OK, now I understand. I rarely use other browser so it don´t bother me.

WindowsToLinux

@mib2berlin said in Annoying "border" around the edge of the window; cannot close browser in upper-right corner:

Hi again, I guess the problem is the developer don´t read the forum, you have to make a bug report about the issue.

Twice I reported this bug in the past, based on the suggestion by another user in this very thread. It's been over five years since I first brought it up. (Technically longer, if you consider since Vivaldi's inception.)

EDIT: Ah OK, now I understand. I rarely use other browser so it don´t bother me.

It shouldn't matter what other software someone uses. This design has no justification. Who would it harm to make the minimize and close buttons flush against the corner? It only helps others (based on muscle memory and Fitt's law) and it doesn't cost a thing.

If this design is fixed, you can still use your keyboard shortcuts, while others can throw their mouse cursor to the top right corner of their screen to close the maximized window. Everyone wins! No one loses.

It would only help all users and improve the overall design, while not costing anything at all.

It's how practically most other maximized applications behave on Linux and Windows (and even Vivaldi's default decoration on their Windows version behaves the proper way.) Another user from earlier reiterates this frustration (emphasis added):

This has been annoying me since I started testing Vivaldi, pretty much for the same reason as @WindowsToLinux . "Throwing" the mouse into the upper right corner and clicking is a habit I had since forever, and Vivaldi is the only window on my whole system that does not respond to that unless I turn on native window. Which breaks another habit of switching tabs by moving the mouse cursor to the upper edge of the screen.

So all the Vivaldi developers need to do is modify their default common.css and change 5px to 0px so that the min-max-close buttons are flush against the corner. Almost six years and counting, and after two ignored bug reports, to quickly fix something that should have been the default from day one to benefit all users at no extra expense to anyone (which it was for Windows, just not Linux), and it's embarassingly still a thing...

I'm not being facetious when I say this is kind of funny.

Otherwise, I would love to hear the justification for why nudging the min-max-close buttons 5 pixels away from the corner is a good thing, and why it should only exist on the Linux version, but not the Windows version?

TbGbe · Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3679.3

@windowstolinux said in Annoying "border" around the edge of the window; cannot close browser in upper-right corner:

Twice I reported this bug in the past

Have you asked for an update on them?
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/27450/what-is-the-status-of-vb-already-reported-bug-issue

cyxovi

I reported this before, and one of developers replied that they will not change, and recommended to use native windows manager.

@windowstolinux said in Annoying "border" around the edge of the window; cannot close browser in upper-right corner:

@mib2berlin said in Annoying "border" around the edge of the window; cannot close browser in upper-right corner:

Hi again, I guess the problem is the developer don´t read the forum, you have to make a bug report about the issue.

Twice I reported this bug in the past, based on the suggestion by another user in this very thread. It's been over five years since I first brought it up. (Technically longer, if you consider since Vivaldi's inception.)

codychan

When you put your mouse point to the edges of Vivaldi, for example, maximized or fullscreen Vivaldi

scroll bar on the right edge, you are unable to scroll the webside by drag the scrollbar since the scrollbar is not selected by the mouse, you have to move the point to the left a little bit
statur bar on the bottom edge, you are unable to click the icon in the status bar, you have to move the point to the above a little bit
Similar to the left edge and top edge

Colusion:
This edge problem should be fixed

NOTE:
There are this kind of issues for years, and it is still not fixed:

NOTE:

I've tested using completely new vivaldi mode(remove ~/.config/vivaldi and ~/.cache/vivaldi directories)
Check Using native window in Preference or not are acting differently, Uncheck it, the mouse seems to resize the browser window, check it, nothing happens. I got two screenshots.
Firefox/Chrome/Edge are all working fine, only Vivaldi has this issue.
Someone says it is the dpi issue, I tested it too, using default DPI(Xft.dpi: 100 in ~/.Xresource), dpi is changed after restarting Vivaldi, but the issue is not gone).

FYI: (I don't think the following info matters, since Firefox/Chrome/Edge don't have this issue)
Manjaro-Linux
i3wm+picom

Version of Vivaldi:

Vivaldi	4.3.2439.63 (Stable channel) stable (64-bit)
Revision	9cb975dce5136de3370122fff19def18adbbb755
OS	Linux
JavaScript	V8 9.4.146.24
User Agent	Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/94.0.4606.114 Safari/537.36
Command Line	/usr/bin/vivaldi-stable --enable-crashpad --flag-switches-begin --flag-switches-end --save-page-as-mhtml
Executable Path	/opt/vivaldi/vivaldi
Profile Path	/home/chz/.config/vivaldi/Default

Gifs screenshot for Check Using native window and Uncheck Using native window:
https://imgur.com/a/3zdiIgF

DoctorG

@codychan The dead areas are a known and reported issue, no progress.

codychan

@doctorg Yes, I know, I added three extra links in the content.

Just to remind the Vivaldi team that this tiny bug is there for years.

DoctorG

@codychan said in Dead pixels around four edges of Vivaldi:

Just to remind the Vivaldi team that this tiny bug is there for years.

The devs read rarely here. Perhaps more bug reports will draw attention to a issue.
Please report and leave bug report number here, i will confirm the issue.

codychan

@doctorg I read in another thread that someone reported this bug but it was closed by the team saying it is duplicated.

I'll try it again.

DoctorG

@codychan I confirmed you issue in tracker.
As i can see, your bug report relates to master bug VB-73177 "Dead pixels over tabs"