Vivaldi takes tabs to the next level, literally
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OMFG ! Thank you so much. Vivaldi is by far the best browser in the world.
I love it since day 1 and loved each new released feature.
But guys, woaw the new tabs feature is so awesome and one of the best feature you 've added.
Thanks a lot. I love your work and your idea. You guys are among the best
You desearve to be recognized for your amazing work.
We should have a nobel browser award. The nominees are : Vivaldi, Vivaldi and... Vivaldi ! -
This update pretty much broke tab stacks for me. Now when I enter a 2-level tab stack, I don't see 2 tab bars, instead I see blank space that would fit two tab bars, but there aren't any tabs at all. If I ctrl-tab out of the stack then I can see my normal tab bar. Does anyone else have this issue?
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@gwen-dragon: It's on the top.
Update: If I lock the second row of tabs (I have to make the menu horizontal because otherwise the lock hides under the menu button), then the issue persists even if I go to a tab outside the group. This makes me think it's a problem with the 2-level bar.
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Thanks for the new, 2-floor, tab stack feature!
At home, I tend to open a lot of tabs so I made a scrollbar below tabs:
http://prnt.sc/y2crzc
Once again, thank you Vivaldi team for letting us customize the browser! I think I will stick to the scrollbar solution at least for some time.But at work, I don't keep a lot of tabs opened so I'm going to test the new feature!
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@Gwen-Dragon thank you
yes I am 
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@nk54 Never curb your enthusiasm mate, great to read about your satisfaction when using Vivaldi!
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@guigirl, After reading your posts about vertical tabs, I decided to try them (again). Tried them in the past briefly, but it felt uncomfortable and I went back almost immediately to H tabs, but this time I am making myself use Vivaldi for a week with the V tabs. With the new tabs stacks it's, well, wonderful so far (although I closed V by mistake twice getting used to it). Now on day 3 of my trial week for V tabs, and maybe this time I see the light.
Thanks for the encouragement to try something new!
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@guigirl Yeah, I was a little worried about the F4 panel toggle and all - I'm using both V tabs and panel toggle on the left, but the way the Vivaldi Team has implemented everything in the UI, it's beautiful to say the least.
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@guigirl Yes, it surely is. I live in Vivaldi all day.
Maybe for the 2nd half of my V tabs trial week, I'll try 'em on the right. I sure do love using my mouse wheel up/down to scroll the tabs up/down. Way more intuitive that scrolling the wheel up/down and going left/right when the tabs are across the top.
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Hello guys.
I got the update info to install to the new version last night.
But I cannot install it on a macOS 10.10.5 system (the program req. 10.11), but it should work (acc. to your req.).
Please double check it!
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Sumptuously! As always, however. Groups of tabs is killer feature that got even better.
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@kaischi
Hi, it is may better to open a thread in https://forum.vivaldi.net/category/34/vivaldi-for-macosCheers, mib
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and after all this time, we still don't have a download tab, where you can humanly manage your downloads
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@mirian What about the Downloads Panel?. Or are you talking about a Downloads Manager?
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@mirian You can use
chrome://downloads. It's better to bookmark the page. -
Great addition Tab Trees, and I'm so glad you understand the huge value of them, even if very difficult to design.
[[ Copied, pasted, and edited this draft, which removed all the form feeds
-- FIXED: @guigirl @Gwen-Dragon ]]
I did have to search before I noticed how to show the "tree" for Tree Tabs, (shown only on the left PANEL). Deleting multiple items from there from a stack however, crashed Vivaldi.
[[Since I wrote this, it also seems that closing even one tab leaf from the tree, takes forever. Please confirm, YMMV.]]After "Renaming a stack" seems to indicate that it is a real object, like an existing tab/link. However, when I used F2 search for that new name AFTER saving the stack as a bookmark, the only option I had was to OPEN all the tabs within that named stack. NOT cool if you had a stack with 50-100 tabs. Worse, when you open these tabs, they are NOT inside any stack.
Depending on the architecture, I'd suggest that ANY stack created gets its own object, and not just a label. I need to be able to act on that stack, without necessarily opening anything.
Most importantly, if I create a Stack, folder, or Bookmark, I didn't intend for that named object to disappear. Just because all of the object children are removed or deleted, I see no value in removing the named parent object!
All of use that abuse the ability by keeping hundreds of open tabs, and dozens of open pages have needs that won't seem obvious to those that are disciplined enough to keep everything squeaky clean. Here's my wish-list to help me cope:
- I want to NAME a Window, and that named object STAY that way. I spend a lot of time, trying to guess which window something is in. Sure, I could search anytime I switch tabs or windows, but why?? I want these pages to remain, always: EMAIL - ENTERTAINMENT - SHOP - WEATHER - RESEARCH - TODO-LATER.
- I also want to NAME and KEEP an object that serves as a container for TABS (Hibernated or active), and BOOKMARKS. Again, these objects should NOT disappear. If I was better organized, I probably wouldn't have hundreds of tabs/bookmarks. So, when I do try to organize, it can't disappear for any [automatic] reason.
- If I have control over active / hibernated tabs, then treat bookmarks the same as the tabs. After all, they are really the same as tabs, you just can't see them. While we are discussing tabs and bookmarks, what about pages that were there that I could read from a website, and one that has been removed. Give me the option of keeping a page SAVED as a whole, even if the WEBSITE has disappeared! In this cancel-culture, we can't depend on content we see today, to be there tomorrow. Give me my own "wayback machine", (archive.org).
- I want to ACT on this folder, just like I would any other object, like a tab / bookmark. I should be able to see that object, then drag and drop, delete, rename, copy, with or without its contents.
If I do open the stack, the only acceptable way would be to open the stack AS a stack, and all the tabs be hibernated by default. From there, I can act normally on that stack. (Note that I had SAVED the stack as a bookmark, so that might be an artifact of opening that Bookmark FOLDER, which instead opened all the links.
In any case, some method of using F2 to FIND and then BROWSE that folder before opening any of those links, (or opening them IN a stack, and even then, open any tabs as hibernated tabs).
Tree Tabs extension was my major reason for using FireFox, years ago. With that, I could name the tree, which I believe was permanent object, and not just a link.
Great progress on the feature, even though it will be a long process to create tab managements that is both powerful and intuitive enough to be easy to learn how to use as designed. -
@DaaBoss A full TreeTabs/TabMixPlus will require time. In the meanwhile upvote first post here
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Great work!
Quick suggestion: add a tabs-subcontainer-visible tag to the top of the body class when a layered tab is visible, this way we can make better extensions and modifications.
I've included a few more details, on the tab feature suggestions here.
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Great, but when the address bar is hidden some extensions don't work (https://eloquent.works for example). Right now I have to keep it visible just for that, and it consuming space unnecessarily since I always use the shortcut to focus it
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@varsha I wish I had better news. But the longer I try to use the tabs in a 2nd level, I end up having to forcefully shut Vivaldi down, using Process Explorer, and restarting the browser.
When is Vivaldi sent to lunch, never to return? When shutting down just a few multiple tabs in the 2nd level. Today I did it with only 3 tabs. Once I tried, CPU on my quad processor went to about 24%, and stayed above 14% for more than 5 minutes, then I gave up and restarted Vivaldi. Next time, it was 5 tabs that I shut down. Then, I tried 8. Each time, I couldn't regain focus or change tabs. At the time, I wasn't out of physical memory, so it wasn't in some swap mode. [[ My linefeeds /proofing are on
now in all my posts ]]It seemed impossible to just wait, or try to regain control. I'd be happy to help test / troubleshoot what's going on, if asked.
