Always open panel in mail view

jumpsq

I like to have the mail panel there when I am in mail view, but I do not want to keep it open at all times.
It would be nice to have the possibility to always have the panel there when switching to mail panel (as a setting), and to have the previous panel reopen after leaving vivaldi://mail

felagund

This is basically a duplicate of this one, no?

https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/62099/separate-mail-from-panels

I would also love this (my use case would be to have all the mail in the panel, as per https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/53516/read-mail-in-side-panel/ - which is probably also a duplicate)

jumpsq

This is basically a duplicate of this one, no?

Well, would it not be the other round i.e. the other request is a duplicate of this one?

I think it kind of is the same, and it especially has the same underlying motivation, that is: it is cumbersome to work with mails when not having the mail panel. It is somehow essential.
That is not to say that it cannot make sense to also be able to open different panels (calendar, notes) while reading mails, and also that it cannot make sense to close the panel once in a while to have more space for reading.

Maybe something like pinning panels to a tab would offer a solution here, but I still believe that the default interface should somehow display the mail panel when showing M3.

felagund

Indeed, generalizing panels and mail so they could all either be in tabs or panel would be great. For me, panels basically just mean tiling, i.e. displaying two winds at the same time (something akin to this: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/46043/swap-tiled-tabs-with-tabs-outside-of-tiling?_=1638104900240 ).

I am always confused about what is a duplicate of what - this one is earlier and has more votes, that one has more comments and so possibly more information, I also linked this threa from that one. This is clearly something that bugs a lot of people.

jumpsq

This has been implemented with Today's Snapshot. It's maybe still a bit sluggish at some points, but mostly seems to work.

And I absolutely love that it returns to the previous panel now when leaving vivaldi://mail!

felagund

Which bug fix is it, "VB-80186 Show mail button should open mail with all the three columns without the side panel "? CAn'T wait for the nexst stable then!

Pesala

I do not want this behaviour. I keep the mail panel collapsed so that I can concentrate on viewing my mail in the chosen view, usually the Received mail.

(VB-87334) Mail Panel Opens Automatically on Switching to Mail Tab

jumpsq

@pesala Have you proposed changing it back or changing it to the behaviour of M2?

Pesala

@jumpsq I reported it as a bug, because it is not the expected behaviour.

Steps to reproduce:

Open the mail panel
Select a folder, e.g. received
Close the mail panel, leaving the panel toolbar in view
Switch to another tab
Switch back to the mail tab

Expected behaviour:
5. The mail panel to remain collapsed

Actual behaviour:
5. The mail panel opens automatically

jumpsq

It's my own request and I was confused how it worked myself. Though I still see why this would be preferable, I agree that this may not be desirable.

For M2 I believe that it works like this:

keep mail panel in mail view as long as it's not changed while mail is focused
return to previous panel on all other tabs
show current panel if mail panel is not set when switching to M2 tab

apng of M2 behaviour

Pesala

@jumpsq That is the expect behaviour, which is the same in Vivaldi when clicking the icons on the panel toolbar, not when switching tabs.

jumpsq

// So do I get you right, the issue is that when closing mail panel while the mail tab is focused, it's opened again when switching outside?

If so, please ignore what's below

For me, the expected behaviour certainly is that the panel is fixed for the mail tab and is not affected if the panel status is changed while any other tab is focused, as long as the panel itself is not closed or changed while the mail tab is focused.

This has not been the case with vivaldi until now.

That is the expect behaviour, which is the same in Vivaldi when clicking the icons on the panel toolbar, not when switching tabs.

I cannot quite grasp this. Switching from the mail tab to any other tab, closing or changing the panel there, has previously also changed the panel for the mail tab.

felagund

Well, your discussion made me try the snapshot and I like the changed behaviour.

That being said, I think mail and panels would still need some work, for me moving what is not in the panel to what is now in mail tab would make a lot of sense (especially if the newly combined mail view consisting of the panel and tab could itself all be put into the panel).

Also I noticed that when I unchecked mail from displayed panels and open a mail tab, I get an empty panel displayed, which I guess is a bug.

felagund

So my issue is filled as VB-87341. Here is a screenshot of what I mean:

felagund

So VB-87341 is fixed in today's snapshot, good, that was quick!