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@iAN-CooG I think that that kind of Facebook user won't look further than Edge or Chrome, maybe Firefox. I have always thought of Vivaldi as a product for the more discerning user; though I understand it has to have some mass appeal to become financially self-sustaining. That is best done with security, privacy, and performance, rather than with gimmicks like controlling the lighting.
Built-in email will be another factor to attract more users. Professional users understand the need for an offline record of their correspondence going back decades on multiple email accounts.
I did find one 3 years old feature request for a calculator, but it has no votes.
Other requests for lighting come after the event, e.g. when Philips Hue Integration was implemented in 2016, some users requested support for similar lighting controllers.
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@Pesala As a good non-gamer, i didn't even know Razer Chroma existed until a few weeks ago.
I can do without it without any problem, but give me M3 and i'll be a very happy man. -
The marketing team have taken over the asylum .... and i've escaped to continue my search for a sane browser. Bye.
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Posting here since the snapshot threads are all closed. I assume this affects 2.5 since I'm seeing it in the RC snapshot 2.5.1525.37:
Vivaldi stopped respecting the "never save" password list (again)!
This was a long-standing problem for most of last year but was fixed for the last few months.
I don't really understand - given Vivaldi's privacy bias - why the option to never save passwords is not properly supported! It doesn't appear in the pop-up dialogue after entering a password and the "never save" list is not found in Vivaldi's settings. The only way to get to it is to search for "password" in chrome://settings
It's an important option for privacy, or when a site requires a generated one-time password during log in. In this case it's very annoying to constantly see pop-up reminders asking me if I want to "change" my password...
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Hi, this update caught me by surprise, doesnt vivaldi warn about being updates?
I have lost my customizations, i usually make a backup before new update, but this time i coudnt.
I have lost my whatsapp webpanel too, i dont care whose fault it is, but you shoudnt update, without warning and check these kind of functionality works properly.
And i think it is time already to put the resource files in a public folder, like for different profiles. you sell a customizable browser, but you make it quite inaccessible, i dont have root permisions in my work pc and i have to ask for write permission to the IT departament every time i get an update, they think i am stupid, always bothering them just to change some colors.currently, i cant use vivaldi as default browser, it is not reliable at all and i will go back to opera (which i dont like after trying vivaldi), but at least i have whatsapp and use all its features
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@Pesala said in Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma:
The Vivaldi Team has lost its way. Get back to implementing feature requests that your users actually asked for — I never saw one feature request for Philips Hue Integration or Razer Chroma Lighting in all the years that I have been closely following the Feature Requests forums in all of their various incarnations.
I think that what Vivaldi still needs at this stage is the exposure. And the kind of exposure they're getting after just two days since the release of this version is pretty impressive. So, I'd rather say it was a very smart move to add this feature.
Whatever makes you stand out from the crowd - even if it's nothing more but a cool gimmick - is good, when you need more people to hear about you. And the more people use Vivaldi, the more resources they'll have to continue their work, therefore they'll grow faster and bring the "real" features that we're all craving for more quickly, right? I sure hope so...
When you make a roadmap for a product that has any competition, you need a smart strategy. You surely want to bring the most wanted features, but unless you have unlimited resources, you also need to attract new customers somehow. Sometimes you do that by adding small things that require only a little effort and give you much more in return. Such was the case with Philips Hue and Razer Chroma integration.
And you do that even if nobody has asked for such features. Sometimes people just don't know that they want something until they try it. And that is the case with this feature. To me, personally it's rather useless, especially that I ditched Razer some years ago for the ridiculously extreme unreliability of their gear, but hey! There are people out there who use their products and now they've been given another reason to switch to Vivaldi, so I guess it's good!
To follow people's demands you just need hard work. To fulfill them, you also need some talent. But to create new demands you need a genius.
(BTW any word on plans to support ASUS Aura?
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@jacekn: Yeah. I got attention around my computer at the office today. We're talking on some project, I was switching between 4 tabs.
It's tiling time! - I though
People went like "woooow", because of this cool feature. But the page on the left was lagging as hell. Couldn't even scroll properly. And the amazement faded...
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@pafflick Nobody needs this, so nobody asked for it. One developer spent a couple of months thinking about how to implement it (no doubt he was working on other stuff too, but it was not a simple thing to do).
In the same amount of time, one developer could probably add Twenty to Thirty Features that users have requested.
In my opinion, a long list of newly implemented features, would encourage more interest than one feature that most people never knew about.
Before the quick commands calculator was implemented, only one user asked for it; now there are half a dozen requests for further enhancements to it. There is no need for this at all. DDG and Google have calculators that are already much more sophisticated.
There is a saying in carpentry: measures twice, cut once.
In programming terms: ask first to see if something is needed, then thinking carefully about if/how to implement it, before even starting work on it.
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@jacekn Please send a bug report. Thanks!
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@Pesala said in Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma:
Nobody needs this, so nobody asked for it.
Sometimes it's not about how many people need something. Sometimes it's all about how many people want it.
@Pesala said in Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma:
In the same amount of time, one developer could probably add Twenty to Thirty Features that users have requested.
Features which would attract twenty to thirty less customers than one silly gimmick?
Actually, after reading the list, I'd say that they'd bring probably around 0 (zero) new customers to Vivaldi, even though those are the features that we actually need. But they won't sell Vivaldi to anyone. That's what those "useless" gimmicks are needed for.@Pesala said in Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma:
In my opinion, a long list of newly implemented features, would encourage more interest than one feature that most people never knew about.
Yeah, that makes sense, but the amount of attention they're getting for that "bad" decision they made proves otherwise. Marketing doesn't always follow common sense (or at least it doesn't seem to).
@Pesala said in Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma:
Before the quick commands calculator was implemented, only one user asked for it; now there are half a dozen requests for further enhancements to it.
That is only a confirmation for my earlier statement:
@pafflick said in Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma:
Sometimes people just don't know that they want something until they try it.
@Pesala said in Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma:
There is a saying in carpentry: measures twice, cut once.
In programming terms: ask first to see if something is needed, then thinking carefully about if/how to implement it, before even starting work on it.
That is a very sensible approach. But that's how you make ordinary things, not the breakthrough inventions. Sometimes not following the usual path is what differentiates art from just the labor.
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@pafflick Just to add something to this: Yes, you want to implement features people will use. You also want to implement features that are new and exciting.
But possibly more importantly: Reading the blog post about how the colour integration was built makes it seem like the dev(s) had fun. Developing fun things is important too.?
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@LonM Of course. And when you like what you do / have fun with it, then you're never actually at work...
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With the latest version i still have the dead bird issue on some sites.
Reported as VB-52446.
Main trouble sites are www.telegraaf.nl www.zdnet.comTested it with a clean profile and gpu off,
Strange that only me seem to have the issue
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@ytsma I don't see any problems, I see there's a lot of video, try disabling "Use Hardware Acceleration When Available" in Setting > Webpages.
"Non è tanto chi sei quanto quello che fai che ti qualifica" - "Il coraggio non è la mancanza di paura ma bensì la consapevolezza che qualcosa sia più importante della paura stessa" - Vivaldi il browser che si adatta all'utente
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@Folgore101 Allready tried that,
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I have the Nommo Pro speakers, they don't work.
I only have those from Razer (and well... Logitech keyboard/mouse and Asus Aura).
From the setting I can chose mouse, keyboard and mouse pad, or Chroma connected device.
I guess that you can't implicitly connect to the speakers too.It's a pity, because they are placed on a glass and the reflection makes for a cool effect.
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@gwen-dragon said:
The update did not break the site. The website is blocking browsers.
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I have razer keyboard... but it seems no work together:
The flame effect keeps going, no matter what website I see.
Also, I can't control the effects - "vivaldi controlling your device lighting"
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Whatsapp web not working in 2.5!! pls fix!
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Thanks!
