What is stopping you from using V all the time?
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There are two reasons that I have not made the switch from Opera 12 to Vivaldi. The first is Opera 12's build in mail client, which I know is in the works and requires no additional explanation..
The second reason is Vivaldi's lack of speed dial key strokes and what I consider to be the misbehaviour of bookmark nicknames. I lumped these together as, in lieu of missing speed dial key strokes, I have assigned numbers "1" to "5" as the nicknames for the first five tabs in my speed dial that I use repeatedly, hoping to be able to replicate the behaviour of Opera speed dial key strokes ("Ctrl" plus number of tab). This enables me to speed dial using two keystrokes (e.g., "F2" "1" to go the first tab) which seems like the whole purpose of a speed dial. For my work, I frequently go to one of two search pages, from which I perform a search, open a document, retrieve data and then perform another search using my speed dial keystrokes ("F2" "1" or "F2" "2" with my Vivaldi setup). Is it not uncommon for me to do 20 or 30 such searches in one session. When I do this in Vivaldi using the nickname speed dial keystrokes, a new tab open each time and I end up with 20 to 30 open tabs unless I stop and take my hand off the keyboard after each search or every few searches to close the last open tab(s) with my mouse. With Opera speed dial and Opera nicknames the webpages always opened in the same tab that you are working in. I realize I can wait and close all the tabs at once, but then I lose any tabs that I did not want to close. All of this has impacts my workflow and keeps me using Opera 12.
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What's stopping me from using V are benchmarks. Most important for me are speed and memory and self organizing tabs/windows.
The show stopper is that there's no V mobile nor sync.
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This is not stopping me, but I'd really like to see Links added to the panel(along with a textbox for us to filter, just like O12).
A decent Bookmarks manager: I would like to see a Bookmarks manager with a verify option in order to track down dead bookmarks. I have lots of bookmarks and sometimes the links are dead.
Filling in forms on different webpages is a task I leave FF, IE or O12 to to. I do not feel comfortable using Vivaldi as I feel Vivaldi simply isn't mature enough for that task. It sometimes appear to live a life of its own
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For me, instant translate from other languages - there are extentions that will send a selection to Google Translate, but will not preserve the formatting, making it awkward to read. So an instant translate of the whole page is needed.
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What is stopping you from using Vivaldi all the time?
I am aware that this is a tec preview, but since you asked….
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Not long ago, it crashed while I was writing a long post. That forum did not autosave it as a draft while I was writing, so it was gone. This keeps me from using it all the time from now on.
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Extensions for ad blocking, cookie controlling and scriptblocking are installable/working, but can't be controlled to via dropdown menu from a panel. In the end that means, you can't use websites properly when the extensions are activated, so you have to deactivate them again.
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Essentially only the missing toolbar for the extensions. Also that sync would be nice.
Edit: And on my couple of years old laptop Vivaldi is way too slow.
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Private modus missing.
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On my three year old laptop, an Intel i3 with Windows 7, Vivaldi continues to be super, super slow and very buggy.
The latest build, 1.0.233.3, is back to being very buggy and super super slow (a couple of builds ago I thought I had noticed a general improvement to just somewhat buggy and very slow from super super slow),Build 1.0.233.3 seems to hang with Windows 7 screensaver .
Heaven help me if I have more than 20 tabs open, within a couple of hours using it Vivaldi will almost grind to a halt, switching between tabs will take 1 to 10 minutes and it even takes 15 to 30 minutes to close Vivaldi in that state.
Bye the way on my LG G2 Android phone, using Chrome, I can switch instantly between over 60 open TABS, yes 60, so previously justification by someone else on this forum of my being unreasonable in have many tabs open or of not having an SSD or more than 4 GB in my laptop are just plain defensiveness and not grounded in reality.Based on the versions I have been using, at this rate, I see no hope for use of Vivaldi by me on a constant basis, nor do I see much hope for use by most everyone else (Except for some developers and users with $2000 + laptops or fast desktops) …
AGAIN I ASK VIVALDI TEAM TO START TAKING SERIOUSLY, AND TO START ADDRESSING NOW, NOT LATER, THE ISSUES OF IMPROVING MEMORY UTILIZATION, LOADING SPEED, TAB SWITCHING AND CLOSING SPEED, IMPROVE SPEED WHEN HAVE MANY TABS OPEN, ALLOW VIVALDI TO NOT HANG OR CRASH WHEN WINDOWS SCREENSAVER COMES ON OR WHEN LAPTOP COMES OUT OF HIBERNATION.
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Additional bug noticed with build 1.0.233.3 (may have been in build before that also) :
After doing a find text in page, sometimes shrinks screen too much, and I can no longer pinch to resize screen on my touchpad on my Samsung laptop. So looks like Vivaldi interferes with the Samsung ELAN Pointer and/or Windows mouse software / drivers.
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I can't replicate your experience with my 8-year old Win 7 X86 Intel Core 2 duo Lenovo laptop. Vivaldi was neither slow nor buggy on it. Now that it's updated to Windows 10, it's still better.
Every system is going to handle software somewhat differently.
Before trying to chase down performance problems on various types of systems, it strikes me that it would be better to actually HAVE a browser, and one that is not going to be undergoing major changes every week - changes which are apt to break any optimizations already implemented.
Once the browser is substantially complete, optimizations will be welcomed and very much appreciated. In the meantime, minor adjustments under the hood which are not likely to run afoul of rapid development changes have been being made, and will continue to be made, I'm sure. Performance of the browser is already well ahead of the first Technical Preview and continues to improve.
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I can't replicate your experience with my 8-year old Win 7 X86 Intel Core 2 duo Lenovo laptop. Vivaldi was neither slow nor buggy on it. Now that it's updated to Windows 10, it's still better.
Every system is going to handle software somewhat differently.
Before trying to chase down performance problems on various types of systems, it strikes me that it would be better to actually HAVE a browser, and one that is not going to be undergoing major changes every week - changes which are apt to break any optimizations already implemented.
Once the browser is substantially complete, optimizations will be welcomed and very much appreciated. In the meantime, minor adjustments under the hood which are not likely to run afoul of rapid development changes have been being made, and will continue to be made, I'm sure. Performance of the browser is already well ahead of the first Technical Preview and continues to improve.
How many tabs did you have open, and for how long did you use V with all those table open ? How much RAM does your 8 year old laptop have and are you using a hard drive or an SSD ?
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I worked for two weeks with up to 30 open tabs, while running my business from out of state, including remoting in to my home desktop as needed. I have maxed out the RAM at 3 GB within the last year and, sometime after installing Vivaldi also switched to a 250 GB SSD (which did speed and smooth things a fair bit, tho it had not been bad before that - just not great.)
Same with my 13-year-old Sony laptop with the 1.46 GHz, 2GB of RAM and 250 GB HDD. Everything is pretty slow on it, even after I have made it better with Win10, but Vivaldi is no worse than anything else. So my two crappy old laptops, including the really crappy really old one, are doing fine. I have not seen the problems you have.
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1. Mail
2. Speed
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but Vivaldi is no worse than anything else.
Vivaldi is slow, we can't hide it.
On my on my not so old PC with a 2.54GHz dual core CPU, 5GB of RAM and a good SSD, vivaldi takes about 12 seconds to fully start. Otter on the same machine starts in 2 (two) seconds, Opium starts in 5/6 seconds, the same as Palemoon.
And the same results are visible (although not easily measurable) on tab switching and other UI functions.
The speed of Vivaldi is surely enough on decently powered machines, but the situation is completely reversed respect the good old Opera days, when Opera was used to start in 5 seconds while firefox required more than 30s to be usable.
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Startup time is kind of a non-issue with me. I don't count it. I do notice a touch of lagginess in the UI (not on the 8-year-old machine, but on the 13-year-old one), which I expect at this stage - nothing near as bad as with the first couple of TPs.
The rest of what you say I have no argument with but, to be fair, I notice lagginess with all other software on these machines, too. Opera actually has a worse startup time with lots of tabs, and everything else has little delays and hitches that I attribute to overall system performance. Sure, Vivaldi has some slowdowns at this point but I don't expect it to be fast until after it's built out. Again, we're not trying to wow every Joe-user in the world and steal them away from their favorite browser. We're trying to replace the big loss in the Opera niche. And when those features are largely covered, then I expect the developers to do like Opera has done after a couple of years in development, and start to tweak memory use and performance. But if we don't get the features that everyone flocked here to see, the "heir to the Opera legend," speed will mean nothing. Simplicity and speed are available everywhere.
Yes?
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But if we don't get the features that everyone flocked here to see, the "heir to the Opera legend," speed will mean nothing.
Well, speed and lightness was a not secondary part of the Opera legend.
ATM we have to think to Jon's words "we don't have the luxury of building the engine from scratch", so we (users) will never see something of comparable with Opera in that area.
We have to live with that fact.
Vivaldi will improve, surely (and likely something of interesting will be visible in the next builds) but it will never match was Opera was. Because the foreign engine and because the non native interface.
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This is a great browser and I know improvements are coming. However, what is keeping me from using Vivaldi all the time is the issue I have with logging into sites such as Viki, Spotify, and Hulu with my Facebook log in information. Vivaldi would be my default browser if there was a way to fix this.
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First, gotta say, Vivaldi is impressive….at least on my Windows 7 machine. There's a small lag time after clicking on a link until the page opens but other than that, no complaints. I can transition from one tab to another with no interference at all. Right now, I have 18 tabs open and she's running like a top I am SUPER excited to have the sidebar with Notes! I really, really missed Notes. I find I'm opening Vivaldi daily since the last snapshot.
The one thing holding me back? I can see Roboform in the extensions list, but there's no icon access. Nor can I find a way to enable the Roboform toolbar. I'm sure this problem will be history in no time as revisions are being released very quickly these days.
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For me it's a stability issue. Kinda impractical to work with V when it crashes too often. But I have full confidence this will improve.
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For me it's a stability issue. Kinda impractical to work with V when it crashes too often. But I have full confidence this will improve.
Never had stability issues with Vivaldi