What is stopping you from using V all the time?
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voltball wrote:
For me it's a stability issue. Kinda impractical to work with V when it crashes too often. But I have full confidence this will improve.I have no stability issues with Vivaldi here, although, on my Windows 7 machine, I'm running the 32 bit version (I've found that, sometimes, 32 bit software can be a bit more stable than 64) and I have 16G RAM, but have no idea if these things are even applicable in this case.
I have been able to get the Roboform toolbar to show, but, unfortunately, it's at the bottom…covering the status bar. :S For me, that's unacceptable. It's such a popular add-on I'm sure this will be remedied in future.
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I am not using Vivaldi all the time, as a fact I am not using Vivaldi at all, every once in a while I check its advancement because I guess when it will be a finished product it will become my default browser - just like the real Opera had been for more than 10 years - but with all the fully developed browsers out there I really don't see the need to use these snapshots with their limited features.
Actually I am using Slimjet, Vivaldi needs to become at least as good as Slimjet to make me consider a switch, plus:- a native context search (I dislike add-ons) and the full right click menu of the old Opera
- a good download manager (torrents too)
- syncrhonization (Slimjet's weak point, I don't want to pass through Big G)
- flash included in the installation package (Slimjet's nice point)
by the way, I absolutely love Vivaldi's color scheme
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Hi,
love the browser, can't wait to start using it on all my pc's
one thing that stops me from using it all the time is the lack of sync option, got 4 machines, different os (2 win, 2 linux) and I need synced bookmarks on all of them. -
Love the direction Vivaldi is headed but:
Mail
Speed
Bookmarks manager bugs
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First, congrats to the whole V team. I'm really impressed. Why don't I dump the other browsers?
1. Text is not clear! Is this a product of the font-smoothing issue I've seen mentioned?
2. Contrast between text and background is nearly always insufficient. Right now I'm looking at light green text within a darker green field, light grey text within a darker grey filed, etc. This really has to go. The 'intensify' option helps, but is not enough. Please see contrastrebellion.com for elaboration.
3. There needs to be a way to make text larger within a field WITHOUT making the filed larger. I.e. I need to make the text take up a higher % of the area within a tab WITHOUT making the tab itself larger.
4. The same applies to websites. A option similar to No-Squint (http://download.cnet.com/NoSquint/3000-11745_4-75944898.html) would be most helpful. No-Squint is the single largest reason I still use FireFox.
5. An e-mail client
6. Bookmark sync across all my devices with Vivaldi installed.
7. A calendar that syncs where, when and how I choose and does not decide for me, as all other calendars seem to.I use V about 25% of the time now. Were legibility the issues (#'s 1-4) resolved, I'd use V 90% of the time, no question.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
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This one: https://vivaldi.net/en-US/forum/all/4406-always-open-a-new-tab-from-adress-and-searchbar
If this feature is implement I will switch from Firefox to Vivaldi! I hate it, to overwrite my tabs if I open something from the adress- or searchbar.
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1. Text is not clear! Is this a product of the font-smoothing issue I've seen mentioned?
Text where? Page text is looking fairly good to me, now. In some earlier versions I think there may have been some issue of subpixel rendering not being applied to page text, but it's looking ok to me now.
2. Contrast between text and background is nearly always insufficient. Right now I'm looking at light green text within a darker green field, light grey text within a darker grey filed, etc. This really has to go. The 'intensify' option helps, but is not enough. Please see contrastrebellion.com for elaboration.
There will be more UI options in the future, but if you need high contrast due to poor eyesight, you probably shouldn't use the current "Dark Theme". In "Light" theme with "Use Page Theme Color in User Interface" (colored tabs) turned on, contrast is pretty high.
contrastrebellion.com's complaints aren't entirely relevant – that's talking about styling of page content (which isn't adjustable on most websites aside from forums), whereas in this case it's application themes that are in question. Many people don't want the UI to be as attention-grabbing (it's why Adobe moved towards drabber, grayer UI themes for the 2014 update to its Creative Cloud programs, although I think they went overboard). I agree that at least one Vivald theme should be highly accessible for vision-impaired users, but it can also make sense to have a UI option that's low-contrast, for those who want that. Of the two themes available so far, it sounds like you're not using the one that best suits your vision needs. In the future, there will surely be a greater selection of high-contrast themes.
The option you mentioned of "Filter - Intensify" effects only page text. If a particular web page is too low-contrast, the fault lies with the designer of the page in question. (Browsers do have default stylesheets, but in Vivaldi's case, the default is already #000 black text on a pure white base. To override the palettes of sites that use have low contrast, you can already use in Vivaldi a plugin like Stylish, and Vivaldi will probably get more buit-in User CSS options in the future.
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voltball wrote:
I have been able to get the Roboform toolbar to showHow did you manage to do it, please?
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Mostly it was (Just came back after a month's hiatus, so hopefully it's fixed now) that the tabs started acting wonky at one point if you tried to rearrange them. So far it's good, but since I haven't found the exact cause yet, I'm not sure if it just haven't been triggered yet.
Still, I love the way Vivaldi is going the way of the old Opera. I didn't want a new Chrome, I want a powerbrowser.
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Mostly it was (Just came back after a month's hiatus, so hopefully it's fixed now) that the tabs started acting wonky at one point if you tried to rearrange them. So far it's good, but since I haven't found the exact cause yet, I'm not sure if it just haven't been triggered yet.
Are you referring to this, perhaps?
Still, I love the way Vivaldi is going the way of the old Opera. I didn't want a new Chrome, I want a powerbrowser.
Agreed.
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but Vivaldi is no worse than anything else.
Vivaldi is slow, we can't hide it.
On my on my not so old PC with a 2.54GHz dual core CPU, 5GB of RAM and a good SSD, vivaldi takes about 12 seconds to fully start. Otter on the same machine starts in 2 (two) seconds, Opium starts in 5/6 seconds, the same as Palemoon.
And the same results are visible (although not easily measurable) on tab switching and other UI functions.
The speed of Vivaldi is surely enough on decently powered machines, but the situation is completely reversed respect the good old Opera days, when Opera was used to start in 5 seconds while firefox required more than 30s to be usable.
True, performance is a big issue, scrolling this thread in Vivaldi alone takes 100 % of one CPU core on a Celeron 1007U (based on Ivy Bridge, Win7 rating 5.4, Atom is even slower) and feels sluggish. Opera 12, Seamonkey 2.33 and Chrome 44 show decent performance (in descending order), though the vivaldi.net Javascript is too much for Presto, so I disabled it.
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It needs mail to make me swap and private browsing and maybe some better resource handling to keep me happy.
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So far only one thing - it held up well to my torture testing.
But, there's a show stopper for me: it's minor, it's cosmetic, but it's a show stopping problem that affects producitivity.
The title bar. Yup., not kidding the fucking title bar.
Here's the problem: in a (seemingly successful) move to clean up the browser UI and browser canvas presumably starting with a clean sheet of paper there is no longer a border around the title bar at the top of the window.
It looks great, it really does.
But the problem is without that border you don't know where the title bar ends physically and where the stuff below it begins.
What is that a problem?
You have more than one window open (just because you guys invented tabs doesn't mean everybody always has one window open :-), maybe 3 or 4. You need to move one. You instinctively go for the title bar with the mouse, click, move, it's not moving. wtf?
See, without definition for the title bar you don't have a clear target, make mistakes and have to do that operation twice now.
An workflow that just had an operation go from 98 to 40% accuracy will impact productivity globally.
I realize this is just a matter of tweaking the user style sheet and can be done by a sufficiently knowledgable user or could be an option what have you.
As long as we' ve digressed into browser style sheets I'd like to bring up an issue that I did with Opera and after a year the response was to shut down the forums.
Remember Opera 12 with the little zoom slider on the bottom right?
Remember it's a little round ball not the usual box?
Where's the CSS for that? Can we make it accessable, documented and usable? So for projects that are "Opera Only" (now "Vivaldi only") can can use things like the build in slider, or colors and color schemes for the browser skin.
That is, why make every app have to write it's own skinning code if you can simply inherit the colors from the browser skin?
For months the responses out of Opera about this were to pretend it didn't exist or to say you can't do that.
To this day I still use one of the skins from that era, that's more appropriate for a scientific workstation and not a yellow and green e-commerce thing for teenagers like Chromium defaults to.
So, in summary:
- Need the title bar back (even if you just inset it or change the color subtly, but I need a target)
- Document internal interface bits so apps can skin themselves to the current browser skin (then you can
change the browser skin and now they have different skins.
Keep up the good work, I'm more than impresses with what I see so far.
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- Need the title bar back (even if you just inset it or change the color subtly, but I need a target)
Vivaldi settings (alt+p) > Appearance > Use Native Window > Restart Vivaldi
Otherwise, I'm sure documentation for developers will come eventually, but they're kind of just focusing on stabilizing the browser right now.
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Thank you so much for Vivaldi! I used Opera 12.14 and Opera 31 before. I have Opera 12.14 for most of my browsing with quite restrictive Cookie-settings and use Opera 31 for every website that doesn't run because of these settings. But Opera just kept getting worse and worse unfortunately. So when i heard of Vivaldi, i just had to check it out - and i'm pleasantly suprised! Keep the good work going. I kicked Opera 31 and use Vivaldi now as my second browser. Once the mail client gets integrated, there's a good chance i'll jump ship completely. Keep up the good work!
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I'll be switching over as soon as Xmarks Bookmarks Synchronization is fully functional.
We're almost there. Right now, the sign in pop-up and the setup wizard pop-up aren't showing.
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what I really miss is lack of support for my gestures profile (yeah, we can edit JS, but there are some commands missing and I have no idea how to bind flips and how to save picture under gesture)
second thing is that annoying speed dial, I just want empty page as homepage and newtab
another one is the opera style tab handling: what happens when you open few bg tabs, switch to some of them and then close the one you are viewing seems too random, probably matter of getting used to it, but the ff-alike profile would be really nice
and still I'm waiting for built-in newsfeed support (probably with some support for news sync like feedly, but that would be just bonus), but for that I can just use chroperas smart rss
last but not least, firefox as only browser out there have sane pocket extension, every other have just "add to pocket button" + "app that actually is just button opening pocket webapp" while ff have that great and lightning fast popupand for extra credits, I'd love to be able to have my mail and news sidebar and their icons on the left but webpanels on the right
oh, and one more thing (the one Opera was missing too)
when I middle click on back/forward button just open it in new tab, please -
No private browsing, extensions from chrome largely do not work (as well as the ones who work, you can't have buttons for them). You can't customise everything (as advertised, I'd like my X button to be on right of the tabs as in chrome, since I'm so used to it ,it's really annoying). There's no option to open a link in a background tab, every time I click open in new tab it automatically directs me to that tab, which is exactly the opposite of chrome and it's really annoying, 90% of the tabs I open I will check later not momentary, that's why I'm openning them in new tabs, if I didn't want to view them later I would just open them in the same tab. The speed dial needs a lot of work. There's an extension for chrome (speedial2) that has way more functionality than the speed dial in vivaldi and that's just a simple extension (which also doesn't run on vivaldi) . You can't set custom thumbnails for your speed dial which just makes accessing the links you have there fast really slow since you can't instantly recognise pages with the thumbnail snapshot vivaldi makes. There's other stuff which I'd like to see being edited on the speed dial (shapes.sizes/shadows etc which you can with the mentioned extension). Lack off apps and extensions compared to chrome, again if vivaldi's mission is to use chrome's extension , then it should be able to display them on your speed dial for easy access. This is just my initial view of a few hours work with the browser, I'm sure there's more to be found along the way.
The pluses I see in vivaldi are : The best vanilla speeddial outside of Opera and Extensions, sadly this isn't enough to make me use it. The best looking UI out of all browsers and that's it. I'd really love to use it a lot since it looks great but it just doesn't compare to other browsers at the moment (it's in beta so technically it shouldn't).
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second thing is that annoying speed dial, I just want empty page as homepage
Can't do anything about the newtab opening to a blank page yet (afaik), but you can set your home page and start up page to about:blank in order to load a blank page when starting Vivaldi and when clicking the home button.
Settings > Startup > Homepage > about:blank
Settings > Startup > Startup with > Specific Pages > about:blank > Addand still I'm waiting for built-in newsfeed support (probably with some support for news sync like feedly, but that would be just bonus)
For now, you can probably just add a web panel for feedly.
…extensions from chrome largely do not work (as well as the ones who work, you can't have buttons for them). You can't customise everything (as advertised, I'd like my X button to be on right of the tabs as in chrome... There's no option to open a link in a background tab... You can't set custom thumbnails for your speed dial... you can't instantly recognise pages with the thumbnail snapshot vivaldi makes...
Ctrl + click and mmb + click opens links in background tab, and in the latest version of Vivaldi, you can right click > open in background tab.
Most Chrome extensions with UI integration are now compatible with Vivaldi since release 1.0.249.12
The close tab button is on the right side of tabs for me. Unless you mean a single close tab button on the far right side of all open tabs? I have no reason to believe there won't eventually be an option for that in a future release. It might (that's a strong might, like it's almost definitely not) also be possible to do this with some custom CSS, but I'm unable to try anything with that right now. Check out this thread.
With a little bit of work, you can use custom thumbnails in the speed dial, and I have absolutely no problem instantly recognizing what my speed dial entries are with nothing but the default thumbnails. But, again, I have no reason to believe there won't eventually be an option to do this from the UI in a future release.
My advice for most of your issues is update to the most recent snapshot of Vivaldi (1.0.252.3).
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Settings > Startup > Homepage > about:blank
Settings > Startup > Startup with > Specific Pages > about:blank > Addwell, I've tried but instead of about:blank it goes to chromeextension://gibberishabout:blank and doesn't work
that was the case for setting homepage to about:blank and launching with homepage
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For now, you can probably just add a web panel for feedly.for news I have smart rss from chroperas store, I HATE feedly webapp and preffer having no sync over struggling with that thing so it's pretty fine for me
and actually, "native" solution in vivaldi wouldn't be native anyway as it would be js so performance would be on the same level as extension varying only on code quality