What is stopping you from using V all the time?



  • I really want to use V all the time, but one thing bugs me.

    I am not able to dock the developer tools. As a web-developer with only two monitors, it's really a pain to waste so much space with two open windows from vivaldi.

    I usually have my text-editor (sublime) on the left monitor, and my browser on the ride. When i start programming with nodejs, i have two consoles extra.

    So, when i can't dock the developer tools, they always fade into the background after a while, what keeps my from using vivaldi all the time.


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    [ol]

    • No email client
    • Unable to customise mouse gestures
    • Mnemonic shortcuts like f,t,p = Execute program, "O:\FTP Commander\ftpcomm.exe"
    • Custom buttons
    • Skins
      [/ol]


  • Actually, I got another one: The url matching is as crap as in all other browsers. If I enter "[servername]" I want to be taken to said server and not a google search! At least do an NSLOOKUP first before throwing my internal server names at google!

    Even worse, in chrome you can type "[servername]/" to prevent a search, in Vivaldi you have to enter "http://[servername]".



  • @serious:

    Actually, I got another one: The url matching is as crap as in all other browsers. If I enter "[servername]" I want to be taken to said server and not a google search! At least do an NSLOOKUP first before throwing my internal server names at google!

    Even worse, in chrome you can type "[servername]/" to prevent a search, in Vivaldi you have to enter "http://[servername]".

    Take a look to the settings. There's a "disable search on addresfield" setting, now



  • The thing I'd like to have is the ability to back up bookmarks to HTML. I managed to do that in earlier releases when the vivaldi:bookmarks page worked and allowed you to do that. So I do have the option to import the HTML file I saved from then, in the event of having to do a clean install.

    That said, I have no problem using Vivaldi as default. I can live without custom buttons, extension icons etc, for now. But it will be good when those are introduced to the browser.

    Like most people who post on here, I've had a few glitches along the way using Vivaldi. But that's to be expected with something so new. A learning curve.

    Using the latest Snapshot, 1.0.178.2, it's impressive to see the progress made so far, and in quite a short space of time by the Vivaldi Team.

    Overall, I've found that using Vivaldi since its first release has been a relatively painless experience. I've not had endless crashes, in fact hardly any at all, and have found the browser to be reasonably quick when in use, and getting quicker. This has instilled a confidence in me to use the browser on a daily basis. To trust it. Personally, I see no reason not to use Vivaldi as default.

    Others will have different experiences to mine, for sure. So I can understand why some users are not quite ready to take the leap just yet. We all have different needs. But for something that's not even a Beta version yet, it's a more than decent browser. A credit to the developers. It's a solid product.



  • @Pesala:

    [ol]

    • No email client
    • Unable to customise mouse gestures
    • Mnemonic shortcuts like f,t,p = Execute program, "O:\FTP Commander\ftpcomm.exe"
    • Custom buttons
    • Skins
      [/ol]

    ~
    Of your list, #4 would matter most to me, and I do not need #5 as much, now that I have learned how to do some of that myself.
    ~



  • @chriss:

    The thing I'd like to have is the ability to back up bookmarks to HTML. I managed to do that in earlier releases when the vivaldi:bookmarks page worked and allowed you to do that. So I do have the option to import the HTML file I saved from then, in the event of having to do a clean install….

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    I have not tested it yet, but the current Vivaldi seems to have an IMPORT choice which can bring in bookmarks from Vivaldi.

    Does anyone know whether it can import from a file such as the normal bookmarks file which Vivaldi save, which i have backed up to another folder on a different drive ?
    ~



  • @serious:

    Actually, I got another one: The url matching is as crap as in all other browsers. If I enter "[servername]" I want to be taken to said server and not a google search! At least do an NSLOOKUP first before throwing my internal server names at google!

    But, wouldn't that feature be annoying in many cases? Suppose I want to search Google for "jupiter". I type in "jupiter" in my address bar but, oops, I'm taken to our internal server jupiter.example.com ! I didn't know such a server existed . . . .

    Currently, many browsers, including Vivaldi, treat the string as a server name only when it includes a dot "." or other special characters. For example, type "bbc.co.uk" into the address field and press return on Vivaldi. You'll be taken to```
    http://bbc.co.uk/



  • @ davesnothere;

    I've tried the Bookmarks - Import - Vivaldi option several times. All I get is a rotating arrow with 'Import in progress' Nothing happens, it just hangs there. Only way to stop it is to re-start Vivaldi. So it doesn't work for me.

    I have no problem importing bookmarks from HTML. It would be nice to have the option to export bookmarks to HTML as well. Just personal preference.


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    @chriss:

    @ davesnothere;

    I've tried the Bookmarks - Import - Vivaldi option several times. All I get is a rotating arrow with 'Import in progress' Nothing happens,

    Importing from where?

    I imported 1,147 bookmarks in 80 folders from Opera 12.17. It took a minute or two. Maybe you're just not waiting long enough? Some users have tens of thousands of bookmarks. To see how many you have, open bookmarks.adr in NotePad and do a find and replace of #URL with #URL



  • But, wouldn't that feature be annoying in many cases? Suppose I want to search Google for "jupiter". I type in "jupiter" in my address bar but, oops, I'm taken to our internal server jupiter.example.com ! I didn't know such a server existed . . . .

    Nope, you would be taken to a server "jupiter" (assuming obviously dns lookup returns a match), assuming you are not part of some domain. In any case, you can always use the search prefix.



  • 1. No Email client
    2. Broken import from Opera 12.16 (Linux version)
    3. Lack of options to organise bookmarks (having folders makes everything messy)



  • @ Pesala;

    From the bookmarks page, if you click Import and then the drop down menu for the browser list Vivaldi is listed with the other browsers, which I think is what davesnothere is referring to ?

    Selecting that option, Vivaldi, you get the box asking what you want to import. Bookmarks, Passwords and History. Select bookmarks and then import. The box that opens says 'Import bookmarks and settings - Import in progress' and the rotating arrow. Following your suggestion in the previous post I let the process run for ten minutes but nothing happens.

    To answer your question about importing from where? … that's the confusing part to me, I'm not sure where it's importing them from. But the option is there.

    I have 120 bookmarks for Vivaldi in six folders, so not that many, and lots of them are specific to the browser so I don't want to lose them. I was able to export them to HTML from a previous build and can easily import them back to Vivaldi should I need to, because that option is available. I don't want to import bookmarks from another browser, they're not all the same. That's why I'd also like to have the option to export them to HTML every once in while.

    I don't know if I've cleared that up. I hope I have. It's really not a problem as long as I have the HTML file saved. But for those users who do prefer to simply export their bookmarks to HTML, and can't do it, it might be.

    Thank you for the suggestions.


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    @chriss:

    @ Pesala;

    From the bookmarks page, if you click Import and then the drop down menu for the browser list Vivaldi is listed with the other browsers, which I think is what davesnothere is referring to ?

    Why would you want to import bookmarks from Vivaldi to Vivaldi? It doesn't make any sense.



  • Myself too I'm quite pessimistic about the ability of any Chromium based browser to be snappy.

    In the recent days there's some hope though, as I'm trying out the Baidu Browser, which seems to be quite responsive and quick – much better than Chroimum, actually quite close to Palemoon's performance.

    So maybe Vivaldi can make it too... :) Ik hoop het! :D



  • @ Pesala;

    Exactly. I don't want to import from Vivaldi to Vivaldi, but tried it after I read davesnothere's post. Makes no sense to me either, but the option is there.

    It's no problem. More curious than anything.



  • chriss wrote
    @ Pesala;
    From the bookmarks page, if you click Import and then the drop down menu for the browser list Vivaldi is listed with the other browsers, which I think is what davesnothere is referring to ?

    Pesala wrote :
    Why would you want to import bookmarks from Vivaldi to Vivaldi? It doesn't make any sense.

    chriss wrote
    @ Pesala;
    Exactly. I don't want to import from Vivaldi to Vivaldi, but tried it after I read davesnothere's post. Makes no sense to me either, but the option is there.

    It's no problem. More curious than anything.
    ~
    Davesnothere followed up :
    To clarify, MY interpretation of that menu choice is that we might be able to use it to import from another Vivaldi installation, which I believe that I did say earlier.

    Anyone who wishes to start over with a new install to mayhaps avoid continuing to use a suspected damaged profile (and there HAVE been reports of that happening here) might wish to use that choice, if it works that way.

    OTOH, I also know how to manually transplant an alternate Vivaldi bookmarks file itself, and that works too.
    ~



  • Well, hopefully the option to export to HTML will be added in the future. Just seems the easiest way to me.



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    @chriss :

    I agree that your original idea would be easier, if we could do that.

    And here is a hint that they might be working on it, from a table of commands listed internally in bundle.js file, but not yet activated :

    {name:"COMMAND_EXPORT_SETTINGS",action:f.doAction,param:"exportSettings",label:l("Export Settings")},{name:"COMMAND_IMPORT_SETTINGS",action:f.doAction,param:"importSettings",label:l("Import Settings")},

    Not sure whether Settings could include Bookmarks, but we will see….

    And there are a few other interesting entries in there which are not yet active. B)
    ~



  • @davesnothere:

    To clarify, MY interpretation of that menu choice is that we might be able to use it to import from another Vivaldi installation, which I believe that I did say earlier.

    Import and export from/to vivaldi (the ones from quick commands) are about settings not bookmarks.

    The import function from V->file->import, I believe, is meant to import the Vivaldi bookmarks/history/passwords from the default install path to a different vivaldi installation, say a standalone or portable. That makes sense to me.


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