Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default

Pesala

@gaelle said in how to disable "switch to the new tab immediately" when click "open new tab":

We discussed this request internally and we like the idea but came to the conclusion that though it's possible to implement this feature, it would be very difficult to do it properly as opening links works differently on various websites. Let's imagine we add this feature and every single link you click on a page opens in the background. It would create a huge number of opened tabs and take quite some resources and time to manage and close them all would amount to more than spending a second more to use already available options. Furthermore, it would cause issues or even break many websites. For example, going through the process of paying for online purchases. When each click opens a new tab there are so many things that could go wrong resulting in a failed transaction or double payment.
In the meantime, there are many extensions out there that attempt to do this, but most of them are buggy and/or cause more harm than good. However, you can try the extensions out yourself by adding them to Vivaldi from Chrome Web Store. One that seems to work is LongClick New Tab. Please give us more feedback about how you expect the behavior to function.
Also, why is Ctrl + click or a mouse gesture that are already available not an option for you?

Gaëlle

Thanks @Pesala for quoting this bit. I was looking for that thread to mention it here as well. As mentioned, we're very interested in finding out more about how you see the implementation of that feature.

Also we're wondering, some extensions already do it, have you tried for example LongClick New Tab.

If so, please give us more feedback about how you expect the behavior to function.

ptaku2

@gaelle Yes!
I think it is a BIG problem!

I'm heavy user of webbrowsers (20+ years of using such apps - IE, Mozilla, Old Opera, Mozilla, New Opera, Vivaldi (it was terrible - sorry), New Opera, Firefox, New Opera and now Vivaldi (since yesterday - it looks much better that 2-3 years ago!) - as a developer I open maybe a hundred(s) of links every day. In backgrund
Let me check - I always use right click on link.
Safari - menu starts with "Open Link in new tab" - I can do it like a one click
Firefox - the same
Chrome - the same
New Opera - still one right click and very short move of mouse and - yes - webpage is loading in background
IE - ... ? ... of course - in background
Vivaldi - right click then click... no! don't do it! first move your mouse to the second position in the menu! And then click... Done

For me it would be sufficent just to (optionally? - but I suspect it should be set AS DEFAULT - you can see that all browsers have such option on the first position in the menu - it's like a standard now!) switch first 2 options in the right click menu:

Open link in new background tab
Open link in new tab
...
Inspect

and maybe rename first command to "Open link in new tab" and from "Open link in new tab" to "Open link in new foreground tab" or sth

It's so obvious and simple solution!

I've noticed at the beginning that soemthing is wrong with the opening links by right click. It's very annoying when you use webbrowser every day for last 20+ years.
Please fix/improve it - for new user it will be always a problem with such built menu

Gaëlle

@ptaku2 thanks a mil for sharing these insights and constructive input. It's helping us a lot.

horia

@ptaku2 yes, it is as simple as you say it!
We need to have a right click to open in background!

In Firefox, eg, there is an option to setup:

"open in new tab" means in background tab
or
"open in new tab" means active (foreground) tab.

So if one could choose in Vivaldi between these two, in the "settings" menu, it would be fine! I think this should be quite simple to implement!

Considering that most browsers allow you to setup this, Vivaldi should have it too! it is a standard procedure, that became since many years a general feature in any browser.

Please note that this would not mean to open ALL links in a background tab! (as Pesala wrote here above). We need only a right-click-and-go solution to be setup if wished, in the "settings" menu of Vivaldi.

horia

In the meantime I discovered that:
in Vivaldi you can middle-click on a link and it opens in a background tab!

this is even better than right-click and then choosing "open in a new background tab" in the context menu (as it is usual in Firefox, eg.) .
I am not used to click the middle button on my mouse (which is a scroll wheel) but if I will get used to it, it is a much better solution than "right-click-context-menu".

Ayespy

@horia Ctrl+click is also faster than right-click and context menu, and so is a custom mouse gesture (which any user may create.) All are single-input actions rather than sequential choices.

Pesala

@horia Maybe it's a dodgy mouse, but middle-click rarely works for me. Right-click is the least efficient method, while Ctrl+Click needs two hands. A mouse gesture is by far the best method. Left click should do whatever the site defines, i.e. open in the current tab or open in a new tab.

GestureDown over a link opens it in a background tab
GestureDown not over a link scrolls to the bottom of the page

urfausto

@claudio super awesome extension. the best one! thanks.

Pesala

@nickster100 Please read my quote by Community Manager gaelle above.

bmx

@pesala

I'm sorry but for a browser that is supposed to be the "peoples browser" that is supposed to give choices which are very evident by how loaded with options it is, this reply just does not seem to be the right thing to say to people who are willing to come to Vivaldi for whatever reason.

We are asking for a choice so you can implement an option like Firefox has. This is very useful for example :

You search Google for a trouble shooting issue, and you go through the list of results you want to open. You may not want to directly jump to the new tab, but open the links you think you need to pick and choose. Then once you are satisfied with the links you have chosen, you can visit them in the tabs that open in the background.

It is true that this can already be achieved but we are asking for a choice so we don't have to right click the link.

Thank you!

bmx

@ayespy

As per your reply, A left click is faster than holding anything else including a middle click as most people are not using middle click and not all Mouse has middle click around the world. Not everyone is using Vivaldi at home. What about people who are not using their own Mouse? Some people are in the library or other public places where there are mice that do not have any middle click, or the middle click is broken, or the Admin has taken out the Ctrl Alt etc keys. The replies here are not making any sense if this browser is about choice. Please consider this option. Its a great browser but it needs this very basic functionality as a choice (being the keyword here).

Pesala

@bmx said in Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default:

this reply just does not seem to be the right thing to say to people who are willing to come to Vivaldi for whatever reason.

It was a very thorough reply. You do not need to use right-click. That is the least efficient of the four methods already available. Gaelle said:

Please give us more feedback about how you expect the behavior to function. Also, why is Ctrl + click or a mouse gesture that are already available not an option for you?

There is also middle-click for those users with a MMB (I prefer GestureDown over a link)

bmx

@pesala I am sorry but did you read what I wrote? Or let me know if I should translate the meaning of my post in another more "efficient" way for you to understand the meaning of "Choice". Thanks ;P

TbGbe · Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3671.3

@bmx Take it easy, there is no need to explain anything.
This thread is feature request not a fault report!!

The alternative methods are just suggestions on how to accomplish your requirement until this request is implemented.

Nekomajin

@pesala
Right click might be the least efficient method for you, but don't talk for everyone.

qwaq

Imagine all our apps, mail, notepads, games, etc, required the 2-step right click, then left click to open process (actually 3 step process: right click, select open option from a menu, left click). Its even worse when applied to a browser because thats the most frequent activity of all, opening links. Some people dont mind 2 steps to do basic things. But when the majority of top browser developers, incl Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Edge recognize a clear preference of single click basic tasks, and have NO PROBLEM implementing it beautifully and simply with no user complaints (browser full of extra tabs, etc), then cant help laugh. The no.1 most important, most used function in a browser - opening tabs - almost seems like it was implemented as an after-thought in Vivaldi, and not worth the 'hassle' to fix. Whats even more amazing is the incredible number of tab options in the settings .. other than this one. I'd give up 99% of those myriads of options for the most important one.

Pesala

@qwaq

It is certainly worth adding this option — at least 29 users upvoted it — however, there is a long list of things to do.

You need to upvote the first post in the thread.

bigmitch007

I agree. I would be great to make open links in the background a preference that one can set as a default. Great browser though. I just started using it and love it!

Para-Noid

Upvote here https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/25836/option-to-open-new-tabs-in-background-as-default
And here https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/25694/option-to-open-links-in-new-tab-by-default