Multiple Row Tabs

vertigo220

despite setting it to show the close button on all tabs, once you hit ~15 tabs or so it stops showing it

Folgore101

@vertigo220 Yes i confirm the problem, in my case it's 23 tabs. Not using it and closing them with the middle button i never noticed. I'm assuming it's a space issue, you can increase the minimum width of the active tab to see it, i use 150 pixels but even 90 pixels should be enough.

Ayespy

@folgore101 Oh, right. I use vertical tabs, so it's not possible for the number of tabs to crowd out the button.

vertigo220

@folgore101 Not only does changing that setting have no effect for me, presumably due to the multiple row hack, but it doesn't even make sense that it would work at all, since it's the active tab minimum width, whereas the problem is that inactive tabs aren't showing the close button. Not saying it isn't the issue, just that if it is, it's just an example of stuff not being logical. And either way, it's an example of how Vivaldi is very rough around the edges, having lots of small issues like that which, individually, aren't too bad, but together just create a subpar browser experience.

Folgore101

@vertigo220 It depends on the type of use, if you didn't say it i would never have noticed it, the close button of the tabs is one of the first things i disable.
However, i understand that it can be useful to others, in this case you must report the problem.

vertigo220

@folgore101 Already did, several weeks ago. Crickets. Again, not sure if it's related to the row tabs hack, and if it is it would make sense they wouldn't bother with it. Either way, I haven't found the Vivaldi devs to be very interested in fixing problems.

Pesala

@vertigo220 said in Multiple Row Tabs:

I haven't found the Vivaldi devs to be very interested in fixing problems.

That's not really fair. They are very much interested in fixing problems. They do little else all day, but there are a lot of bugs and thousands of feature requests, and only a small team.

With 4,105 feature requests, and a small team, those needed by few users or difficult to implement may have to wait for a long time. Wherever you see that a feature is tagged as In Progress, it may get done this year rather than next.

vertigo220

@pesala Not fair or unfair, just my perception of the situation. I've had to completely stop using Vivaldi on Android because it has such severe issues, and AFAIK months after reporting the issues nothing has been fixed, and I'm not hopeful the issues will be fixed for a long time.

KiraV

@pesala already did!

steelie

good day

i love it .- i like this very much.

@luckypotato said in Multiple Row Tabs:

This has been implemented already in Vivaldi Hooks, which you can access and find more out about here. However, due to the way it works, you'll need to reinstall the hooks every time Vivaldi is updated. It's a small price to pay to have this, and quite a lot of other, new functionality.

vivaldi is so amazing - i have told all my friends about vivaldi - and i have made some of them to BETA-Testers .- they run Vivaldi on their machines... --;)

keep up the awesome project it rocks.. and is generally one of the very best browsers out there

RainbowMagicMarker

With the recent update breaking the CSS to move the tab bar below the bookmark bar this has become an even more critical improvement that Vivaldi needs to implement.

On the bright side I see it's been marked with In Progress! Hopefully we see it sooner rather than later, it's absolutely critical for Vivaldi getting a solid userbase of those of us incredibly frustrated by the Chrome-ifying of browsers!

Saved2Serve

@rainbowmagicmarker
But what is this?! alt text
I rebooted Windows from an update and then launched Vivaldi and found that Vivaldi (via an update?) nuked my multiple tab rows and messed up the whole tab row by showing page images, which yoy cannot read anyway. How do you turn this last "feature" off and get multiple tab rows back, which is the main reason i use Vivaldi.

The version is, Vivaldi 3.8.2259.42 (Stable channel) (64-bit)
Revision f4b13ed6242bf56c4ddb1dc50244f52c9903e4eb
OS Windows 10 OS Version 2009 (Build 19042.1052)

EDIT: I found and turned off "Show Tab Thumbnails" under Settings, which I had never turned on, but multiple tab rows are no longer working.

Meaning if I want to open a lot of tabs, such as articles to read or in comparison shopping, then I am faced with the likes of this, alt text ,
rather than like this,
(Firefox ESR 59 - legacy)

Progress.

Ayespy

@saved2serve Thumbnails of tabs have always been present in Vivaldi. You can grab the boundary at the bottom of the thumbs and slide them shut or go to settings/tabs/tab display and uncheck "show tab tumbnails."

Saved2Serve

@ayespy said in Multiple Row Tabs:

@saved2serve Thumbnails of tabs have always been present in Vivaldi. You can grab the boundary at the bottom of the thumbs and slide them shut or go to settings/tabs/tab display and uncheck "show tab tumbnails."

Thanks - i saw and did the latter - but how do I get multiple tab rows multiple tab rows back?

Ayespy

@saved2serve You mean two-row tab stacks? Vivaldi only has multiple rows for stacks.

Saved2Serve

@ayespy said in Multiple Row Tabs:

@saved2serve You mean two-row tab stacks? Vivaldi only has multiple rows for stacks.

No: Multiple Row Tabs which this thread is about, via a hack that works.
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I think this is what I did to enable this:

Open vivaldi://experiments in the browser address bar

Enable the option "Allow for using CSS modifications"

Open the Appearance section in Settings

Look for Custom UI Modifications and hit Select folder and navigate to the location you want to place your custom.css file in, but choose a place outside the Vivaldi folder (which normally is %LOCALAPPDATA%\Vivaldi). Remember this location.

Close down Vivaldi and go to that location and right click and choose New>text document, and then name it custom.css Make sure that .css is the extension.

Then copy and paste the coding from here inside it. Then modify it for ver. 3.6 according to here. Save the file and launch Vivaldi.

Ayespy

@saved2serve I see. That's a MODIFICATION.

It is not part of, nor sanction by, Vivaldi. It is allowed, even encouraged. But it is a user-modification which Vivaldi cannot ensure will work from one version to the next, because Vivaldi does not inspect it, evaluate it, or support it.

So when a mod stops working, it's necessary to go to the modifications category, work with the users there who design such things, and seek solution. It's not on-point to expect Vivaldi Devs to fix something they didn't build.

Saved2Serve

@ayespy said in Multiple Row Tabs:

@saved2serve I see. That's a MODIFICATION.

It is not part of, nor sanction by, Vivaldi. It is allowed, even encouraged. But it is a user-modification which Vivaldi cannot ensure will work from one version to the next, because Vivaldi does not inspect it, evaluate it, or support it.

So when a mod stops working, it's necessary to go to the modifications category, work with the users there who design such things, and seek solution. It's not on-point to expect Vivaldi Devs to fix something they didn't build.

Thanks but I basically knew all this, and which is why I am posting in this Multiple Row Tabs thread which is where such problems and solutions were posted and found before. But now it seems that only a mod responding. Thanks for trying to help though.

Ayespy

@saved2serve Yeah. This really isn't where such discussions take place. That would be in the Modifications category.

Saved2Serve

@ayespy said in Multiple Row Tabs:

@saved2serve Yeah. This really isn't where such discussions take place. That would be in the Modifications category.

I see (or maybe will see) but I found the problem, which was that somehow the address to my Custom UI folder got changed, and now that I fixed it then the multiple tab rows hack is working again. Thank God. This is very important to me, and I wish it was a standard option.