Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi

[Stardust]

@chillZ said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

The button is there by default, meaning the feature is enabled.

I haven't tried this vpn button, but I think there should be a confirmation dialog, something like:

Are you sure want to install/enable Proton VPN extension, Yes/No

[Pesala]

@chillZ The code for email is there whether you enable it or not.

To remove the VPN icon just right-click on it and remove it.

@Stardust said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

I haven't tried this vpn button, but I think there should be a confirmation dialog, something like:

Click the button and you will get the confirmation dialog.

Read the Help File to learn about it if you’re not sure if you need it or not. With the current hate speech legislation in the UK, I wonder whether I need it myself.

[luetage]

@chillZ The possibility to activate the VPN feature is there by default, but the extension is not installed without user action. Even if the extension is installed, the extension and therefore the feature is not enabled without signing up first.

[Catweazle]

@chillZ, yes, the icon is there by default, but only the icon, Proton is only activated when you clic on it and logs in, only then, if noy remove it like any other extension.

[Stardust]

I am confused, if you click on that new VPN button, will Proton VPN extension be installed without any confirmation? This is pretty bad imo

[Catweazle]

@Stardust, even in this case it is inactive and renovable like any oyher extension, also with an click,

[Stardust]

@Catweazle said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

@Stardust, even in this case it is inactive and renovable like any oyher extension, also with an click,

This is not good installing something without user confirmation

[greybeard]

Only in Windows?
Just went to my repo manager and updated all. No new Vivaldi.

Edit:
PCLinuxOS XFCE.

[pgaa]

When connected to ProtonVPN, need change some settings ?

[npro]

@Stardust the best, as it remains always open, thus always protecting your privacy and freedoms and the collaboration is for the common good and not for some company who uses "open-source" suckers for its own profit. This is also a common misconception point for the Microsoft Windows' crowd.

[Pardus]

Is it possible to be active on one site and inactive on another?

[pukkandan]

So... just clicking on the fancy new button installs and enables a random extension without the usual permission/confirmation dialog? And the extension silently remains running in the background even when the icon is removed unless user goes to extensions and uninstall it? Whether the developers trust proton, and whether the actual VPN is enabled is irrelevant. This is adware, plain and simple. Who even asked for this shitty feature?

I've been daily driving vivaldi from nearly the start of the project - and while many things have annoyed me over the years, I always came back to it. But this is simply a deal-breaker. If devs are willing to install this random freemium third party extension on my system without warning, why should I trust them to install nothing else? It's sad to things have come to this - guess enshittification just can't be beaten.

[Stardust]

@pukkandan said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

If devs are willing to install this random freemium third party extension on my system without warning, why should I trust them to install nothing else? It's sad to things have come to this - guess enshittification just can't be beaten.

There should be some warning or confirmation 100%

For me enshittification started few months ago when they added affiliate links bloatware in Add New Speed Dial dialog without any option to disable or hide it

[Neophyte]

No thank you.

[chillZ]

@Pesala

The code for email is there whether you enable it or not.

but it not visible and does't install anyrhing without consent, it's not even there until I decide I want to have it.

@Catweazle
@luetage said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

Even if the extension is installed, the extension and therefore the feature is not enabled without signing up first.

mine has been enable after I clicked on it. It is simply unclear for any user how this works. No comfirmation, nothing. Even hiding this button will not deactivate or remove the extension.

How can you not see this is adware behaviour? Where even is the privacy policy for this 3rd party login?
Privacy you can trust it says on the welcome page but all of this is untrustworthy.

[KasperNymand]

I love Vivaldi and I love Proton. Great choice!

[Pesala]

@chillZ said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

No confirmation, nothing. Even hiding this button will not deactivate or remove the extension.

Only a message that it is initialising…

I agree that the button should not install an extension and enable it without any warning. Even the tooltip Proton VPN does not indicate that it will install an extension and enable it.

If you right-click and remove the icon, before clicking it, that would prevent accidental installation, but that is not a satisfactory policy. New users will likely click it to see what it does.

[barbudo2005]

Understand it with this image:

[Nekomajin]

While I think this feature is a great addition and it benefits both companies, installing an extension without the usual confirmation dialog is just plain wrong. Having to explain the mechanism in the comment section instead of the blog post is also wrong. What is happening to Vivaldi nowadays?

[barbudo2005]

I don't know why, but it seems to me that many of those who are complaining about Proton, are the same ones who have been complaining because Vivaldi did not incorporate uBO built-in or did not maintain MV2, and are planning to leave in June. Don't suffer any more and don't get your nerves upset, it's bad for your heart , leave today.

PS: This red heart has nothing to do with the one in the splash screen, it is another one.