Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi

[chillZ]

Good you Vivaldi Team to have a partnership.

However this should not be enabled and installed by default!

Everone has different standards regarding privacy and security, having a partnered extension especially a "free product" preinstalled and your data shared is a nightmare. You can argue how much you want about how secure or trustworthy Proton may or may not be.

But this feels like adware to a privacy focused browser for your friends

[Pesala]

@chillZ said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

However this should not be enabled and installed by default!

It is not enabled by default.

[ThePfromtheO]

@chillZ But this is NOT enabled by default!
The extension is installed only when you tap on the VPN button, and you can then uninstall it at any time!

[ThePfromtheO]

@JyuSensei said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

Another

What are the other (Vivaldi) ones?

[chillZ]

@Pesala The button is there by default, meaning the feature is enabled.
It doesn't matter if a dependency like the extension is downloaded before you press the button or not. It's the same principle as with the email & feed function. -> if you don't enable it it's not there for you to see. If it is enabled, it still has to be configured.

Am I wrong about this example? If yes, how is it different?

[npro]

@Stardust said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

uBO is the best extension ever, also open source

Not just open-source, but most importantly copyleft, with a GPL-3 license, meaning no one can take it, modify it and distribute it (for example in a closed -intransparent- way) without making the modified source code changes available to the public.

[Stardust]

@npro said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

@Stardust said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

uBO is the best extension ever, also open source

Not just open-source, but most importantly copyleft, with a GPL-3 license, meaning no one can take it, modify it and distribute it (for example in a closed -intransparent- way) without making the modified source code changes available to the public.

so GPL-3 is a good thing right?

[Stardust]

@chillZ said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

The button is there by default, meaning the feature is enabled.

I haven't tried this vpn button, but I think there should be a confirmation dialog, something like:

Are you sure want to install/enable Proton VPN extension, Yes/No

[Pesala]

@chillZ The code for email is there whether you enable it or not.

To remove the VPN icon just right-click on it and remove it.

@Stardust said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

I haven't tried this vpn button, but I think there should be a confirmation dialog, something like:

Click the button and you will get the confirmation dialog.

Read the Help File to learn about it if you’re not sure if you need it or not. With the current hate speech legislation in the UK, I wonder whether I need it myself.

[luetage]

@chillZ The possibility to activate the VPN feature is there by default, but the extension is not installed without user action. Even if the extension is installed, the extension and therefore the feature is not enabled without signing up first.

[Catweazle]

@chillZ, yes, the icon is there by default, but only the icon, Proton is only activated when you clic on it and logs in, only then, if noy remove it like any other extension.

[Stardust]

I am confused, if you click on that new VPN button, will Proton VPN extension be installed without any confirmation? This is pretty bad imo

[Catweazle]

@Stardust, even in this case it is inactive and renovable like any oyher extension, also with an click,

[Stardust]

@Catweazle said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

@Stardust, even in this case it is inactive and renovable like any oyher extension, also with an click,

This is not good installing something without user confirmation

[greybeard]

Only in Windows?
Just went to my repo manager and updated all. No new Vivaldi.

Edit:
PCLinuxOS XFCE.

[pgaa]

When connected to ProtonVPN, need change some settings ?

[npro]

@Stardust the best, as it remains always open, thus always protecting your privacy and freedoms and the collaboration is for the common good and not for some company who uses "open-source" suckers for its own profit. This is also a common misconception point for the Microsoft Windows' crowd.

[Pardus]

Is it possible to be active on one site and inactive on another?

[pukkandan]

So... just clicking on the fancy new button installs and enables a random extension without the usual permission/confirmation dialog? And the extension silently remains running in the background even when the icon is removed unless user goes to extensions and uninstall it? Whether the developers trust proton, and whether the actual VPN is enabled is irrelevant. This is adware, plain and simple. Who even asked for this shitty feature?

I've been daily driving vivaldi from nearly the start of the project - and while many things have annoyed me over the years, I always came back to it. But this is simply a deal-breaker. If devs are willing to install this random freemium third party extension on my system without warning, why should I trust them to install nothing else? It's sad to things have come to this - guess enshittification just can't be beaten.

[Stardust]

@pukkandan said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

If devs are willing to install this random freemium third party extension on my system without warning, why should I trust them to install nothing else? It's sad to things have come to this - guess enshittification just can't be beaten.

There should be some warning or confirmation 100%

For me enshittification started few months ago when they added affiliate links bloatware in Add New Speed Dial dialog without any option to disable or hide it