Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.
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@Nekomajin
There is still vivaldi:experiments, it gets removed in 7.3.
You follow the forum and there are some fixes already not published, if a new snapshot appears revert and test.
I test the address bar all the time even I don't really use it.
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@mib2berlin
Sorry, but I'd like to use the browser not test it. All my respect to you, but I am not a tester. I won't restart the browser after every release and I don't follow all the minor fixes because I don't have time for it. Breaking the address field broke my work flow, so I spend time here hoping the devs will hear my voice among the others'. -
Feature request to reimplement the manual selection and sorting of categories in the address field dropdown: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/106581/reimplement-manual-sorting-categories-in-the-address-bar-dropdown
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@JyuSensei said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:
@johnjaymoore said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:
Does Vivaldi email incorporate Google mail effectively?
In my experience, no. Had to oauth every time I restart the browser so I switched to using an app password for it.
And then there is the infuriating way gmail does labels and folders.
I have my own GMail account on three Vivaldi machines, no problem. I have set up my wife's two GMail accounts on two machines... also no problem.
I don't want to discount your personal experience but I think it's far, far from normal. GMail works fine with Vivaldi.
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How can the yellow "sync problem" be fixed? Any news? Updates from the devs? Anything?
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Disabling history display in the address bar causes an unintended option to appear, which redirects to http://SEARCH_TEXT. The same issue occurs on a new profile.
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LOVE THIS!! but can you guys PLEASE! add Custom Keyboard sounds where each time i type it makes a sound when i type and if the sounds that you recommend on here i dont like i can add my custom one??? can yall also add image ONLY wigets where i can have a widget with the Image i WANT only ?? with the bookmarks i save can yall try to make them more smaller and where the imanges will show i find it really hard on how i have to use Medium size on it in order for the custom image to show TYYY
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With regard to "[New][Address bar] Refactor autocomplete and drop down suggestions (VB-112646)":
Unless I'm mistaken and it is not related to the aforementioned change, is there a way to get the former dropdown list behavior back, in case one didn't like this change? Where the results would visibly be separated, i.e. "History" and "Bookmarks" and the list wouldn't be that short? Fwiw, I do not use online web searching in the address bar, unless I specifically have a leading search engine 'shortcut' (ddg, sp etc.) when typing. Thanks. -
@ian-coog: and if you preferred the unrestricted uBlock Origin, well, Google Manifest v3 is affecting/will be affecting all Chromium-based browsers and Chrome.
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@jorpheus: identical perception/experience for me.
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@nekomajin: yes, this being turned into something optional would be nice, so that those of us who not like this address bar/dropdown list change could go back to their used-to workflows.
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@mib2berlin: looking forward to those changes. keeping my fingers crossed for being able to get the old behavior of the address bar/dropdown list back.
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How can I revert to v7.0?
Yesterday I made an upgrade, but I regret it. The performance is extremely frustrating.
I've seen some other people here having similar issues with startup, maybe they experienced the other things too.First, the startup time is a couple of minutes. An then when it starts to become somewhat responsive, I have to wait even more, for it to become warmed up and ready. The whole process takes at least 10 minutes. In the previous version it started in 20 seconds max (I have a loooot of tabs, so that result is good actually).
But even when it warms up, it beachballs constantly. Switching to another window, opening/closing a search bar, closing a window, hovering a button on the UI (synced tabs), sometimes just because I was inactive for 10 seconds. It's not consistent, sometimes it works smoothly (when it has everything needed in RAM, i.e. when it was used recently), sometimes it hangs for a few seconds.
When I was typing this post and not doing anything else, a few times it was hanging for a couple of seconds, unresponsive, then finally spitting those buffered letters out (although no beachball here).Going back and forward between Google and a Github page takes like 1.5 seconds. When I think it should be instant, it should use cache for it, right?
I've noticed, that the main Vivaldi process is capped at 100% CPU and cannot go past that, like it is single threaded or something. That could explain slow startup and hangs/beachballs, where the whole UI is unresponsive.
Also this process seems like capped to 2 GB of RAM. I don't remember how it was with the previous version, but if the process has to juggle the memory all the time, that could explain those frequent hangs, especially after having some break, to unload and then load some other thing to RAM.
Maybe the build options for Apple Silicon got broken or something?I don't know if you do that already (it seems to me you don't), but I'd hope that at least one person in the desktop team have a session with a couple of hundreds tabs open, for testing purposes (most hibernated of course, I'm not a savage
), to pick up on such performance regression early, before hitting stable.My stats, maybe it'd help:
Vivaldi 7.2.3621.67 (Stable channel) (arm64)
Build: b460b840782fe55c330a57fd75936f512e0a3422
OS: macOS Wersja 14.7.4 (kompilacja 23H420) -
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@Nekomajin said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:
@mib2berlin
And why couldn't they keep it behind a flag as they did with other features in the past? There is no need to rush incomplete features out just because they have to release a new version.This is a huge gripe of mine with software and games. Before companies released finish products, but now that everything is online, they release by a date and just patch things after that. Leaving the end user to deal with it until(hopefully) the thing that is troubling them is eventually addressed.
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@pepkin88
Hi, you cant downgrade to older Vivaldi version without breaking your user profile, this would be a change from Chromium 134 to 130 and they changed a lot since then.
You are the first Apple user report performance issues iirc, many of the Vivaldi team use MacOS and 2 GB is nothing.
I can work with 1000 tabs, even on Windows, this should not be a problem with Apple Silicon.
If you still want to try make a backup of your user install, Help > About should show where it is.
At your risk: https://vivaldi.com/de/download/archive/Opensuse Tumbleweed x86_64 KDE 6.2 X11, Windows 11 Pro, Vivaldi latest
HP Probook Intel(R) i5-8350U 16 GB, GPU UHD 620, SSD 256 GB
Miniforum-B550 AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 16 GB, Radeon Graphics
Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14 -
And now I noticed, that Vivaldi Mail stopped working since the upgrade. No new emails, IMAP error on all accounts, no apparent way to fix it. Great!
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@RogerWilco said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:
With regard to "[New][Address bar] Refactor autocomplete and drop down suggestions (VB-112646)":
Unless I'm mistaken and it is not related to the aforementioned change, is there a way to get the former dropdown list behavior back, in case one didn't like this change? Where the results would visibly be separated, i.e. "History" and "Bookmarks" and the list wouldn't be that short? Fwiw, I do not use online web searching in the address bar, unless I specifically have a leading search engine 'shortcut' (ddg, sp etc.) when typing. Thanks.You can revert by going to this page vivaldi:experiments Select the Disable Chromium Omnibox, then restart the browser. This apparently will be removed in a future release though
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@sjudenim
They do and it was posted here many many times.
vivaldi:experiments
Vivaldi doesn't ad or remove flags, the Chromium developers do.
The Vivaldi has to keep up with the development pace of Chromium.
It takes ~ two weeks to fix all issues happen with a new version alone.
They have to release, period.Opensuse Tumbleweed x86_64 KDE 6.2 X11, Windows 11 Pro, Vivaldi latest
HP Probook Intel(R) i5-8350U 16 GB, GPU UHD 620, SSD 256 GB
Miniforum-B550 AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 16 GB, Radeon Graphics
Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14 -
@mib2berlin said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:
@sjudenim
They do and it was posted here many many times.
vivaldi:experiments
Vivaldi doesn't ad or remove flags, the Chromium developers do.
The Vivaldi has to keep up with the development pace of Chromium.
It takes ~ two weeks to fix all issues happen with a new version alone.
They have to release, period.What are you responding to? I never said anything about flags
and lol at the 2 weeks to fix things. There are looooong standing bugs and regressions that persist, I'm talking years after they were introduced.
