Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.

mtaki14

@JyuSensei said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:

@johnjaymoore said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:

Does Vivaldi email incorporate Google mail effectively?

In my experience, no. Had to oauth every time I restart the browser so I switched to using an app password for it.

And then there is the infuriating way gmail does labels and folders.

Oauth works fine for me. But there used to be a bug at one point, which sounds like what you describe, that has been long fixed

mib2berlin

@Nekomajin
No idea, I am not a member of the Vivaldi team.
As tester for other apps this is normal today, when was a Windows version ever not a beta version as published.
I don't like it too, Blender 3D was published when the bug tracker was < 100 open bugs, then 1000, then they give up.

cobaltjt

@mtaki14 said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:

@cobaltjt said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:

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[…] you will have to disable a few options first. Namely "Prioritize Bookmarks" and "Direct match". After a short while, the addressbar should be able to give you the exact autocomplete match you are looking for most of the time. It just needs some time to learn.

Disabling "Prioritize Bookmarks" did the trick, thanks.
It would be nice to have these details in the blog posts. Would save a lot of frustration. At least some of my friends moved away from Vivaldi after a couple of address bar-autocompletion changes.
Or is it mentioned and I missed it?

Nekomajin

@mib2berlin
No offense, I didn't mean to attack you. Or the devs, by the way.

I just don't think it's a good reference if other vendors do the same. (What MS does is outrageous.) I am always open to new ideas, my habits regarding how I use my computers changed a lot over the decades, but one thing is constant. I hate it when the developers break something I like the way it is, and patch it later, forcing me to adapt.

mib2berlin

@Nekomajin
There is still vivaldi:experiments, it gets removed in 7.3.
You follow the forum and there are some fixes already not published, if a new snapshot appears revert and test.
I test the address bar all the time even I don't really use it.

Nekomajin

@mib2berlin
Sorry, but I'd like to use the browser not test it. All my respect to you, but I am not a tester. I won't restart the browser after every release and I don't follow all the minor fixes because I don't have time for it. Breaking the address field broke my work flow, so I spend time here hoping the devs will hear my voice among the others'.

Nekomajin

Feature request to reimplement the manual selection and sorting of categories in the address field dropdown: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/106581/reimplement-manual-sorting-categories-in-the-address-bar-dropdown

mossman

@JyuSensei said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:

@johnjaymoore said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:

Does Vivaldi email incorporate Google mail effectively?

In my experience, no. Had to oauth every time I restart the browser so I switched to using an app password for it.

And then there is the infuriating way gmail does labels and folders.

I have my own GMail account on three Vivaldi machines, no problem. I have set up my wife's two GMail accounts on two machines... also no problem.

I don't want to discount your personal experience but I think it's far, far from normal. GMail works fine with Vivaldi.

Pinkmeister

How can the yellow "sync problem" be fixed? Any news? Updates from the devs? Anything?

Flikowski

Disabling history display in the address bar causes an unintended option to appear, which redirects to http://SEARCH_TEXT. The same issue occurs on a new profile.

Monstabraat

LOVE THIS!! but can you guys PLEASE! add Custom Keyboard sounds where each time i type it makes a sound when i type and if the sounds that you recommend on here i dont like i can add my custom one??? can yall also add image ONLY wigets where i can have a widget with the Image i WANT only ?? with the bookmarks i save can yall try to make them more smaller and where the imanges will show i find it really hard on how i have to use Medium size on it in order for the custom image to show TYYY !!! for the update it means VERY MUCH to me

RogerWilco

With regard to "[New][Address bar] Refactor autocomplete and drop down suggestions (VB-112646)":
Unless I'm mistaken and it is not related to the aforementioned change, is there a way to get the former dropdown list behavior back, in case one didn't like this change? Where the results would visibly be separated, i.e. "History" and "Bookmarks" and the list wouldn't be that short? Fwiw, I do not use online web searching in the address bar, unless I specifically have a leading search engine 'shortcut' (ddg, sp etc.) when typing. Thanks.

RogerWilco

@ian-coog: and if you preferred the unrestricted uBlock Origin, well, Google Manifest v3 is affecting/will be affecting all Chromium-based browsers and Chrome.

RogerWilco

@jorpheus: identical perception/experience for me.

RogerWilco

@nekomajin: yes, this being turned into something optional would be nice, so that those of us who not like this address bar/dropdown list change could go back to their used-to workflows.

RogerWilco

@mib2berlin: looking forward to those changes. keeping my fingers crossed for being able to get the old behavior of the address bar/dropdown list back.

pepkin88

How can I revert to v7.0?

Yesterday I made an upgrade, but I regret it. The performance is extremely frustrating.
I've seen some other people here having similar issues with startup, maybe they experienced the other things too.

First, the startup time is a couple of minutes. An then when it starts to become somewhat responsive, I have to wait even more, for it to become warmed up and ready. The whole process takes at least 10 minutes. In the previous version it started in 20 seconds max (I have a loooot of tabs, so that result is good actually).

But even when it warms up, it beachballs constantly. Switching to another window, opening/closing a search bar, closing a window, hovering a button on the UI (synced tabs), sometimes just because I was inactive for 10 seconds. It's not consistent, sometimes it works smoothly (when it has everything needed in RAM, i.e. when it was used recently), sometimes it hangs for a few seconds.
When I was typing this post and not doing anything else, a few times it was hanging for a couple of seconds, unresponsive, then finally spitting those buffered letters out (although no beachball here).

Going back and forward between Google and a Github page takes like 1.5 seconds. When I think it should be instant, it should use cache for it, right?

I've noticed, that the main Vivaldi process is capped at 100% CPU and cannot go past that, like it is single threaded or something. That could explain slow startup and hangs/beachballs, where the whole UI is unresponsive.
Also this process seems like capped to 2 GB of RAM. I don't remember how it was with the previous version, but if the process has to juggle the memory all the time, that could explain those frequent hangs, especially after having some break, to unload and then load some other thing to RAM.
Maybe the build options for Apple Silicon got broken or something?

I don't know if you do that already (it seems to me you don't), but I'd hope that at least one person in the desktop team have a session with a couple of hundreds tabs open, for testing purposes (most hibernated of course, I'm not a savage ), to pick up on such performance regression early, before hitting stable.

My stats, maybe it'd help:
Vivaldi 7.2.3621.67 (Stable channel) (arm64)
Build: b460b840782fe55c330a57fd75936f512e0a3422
OS: macOS Wersja 14.7.4 (kompilacja 23H420)

Hadden89

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sjudenim

@Nekomajin said in Vivaldi 7.2: Speedy and smart, a serious update.:

@mib2berlin
And why couldn't they keep it behind a flag as they did with other features in the past? There is no need to rush incomplete features out just because they have to release a new version.

This is a huge gripe of mine with software and games. Before companies released finish products, but now that everything is online, they release by a date and just patch things after that. Leaving the end user to deal with it until(hopefully) the thing that is troubling them is eventually addressed.

mib2berlin

@pepkin88
Hi, you cant downgrade to older Vivaldi version without breaking your user profile, this would be a change from Chromium 134 to 130 and they changed a lot since then.
You are the first Apple user report performance issues iirc, many of the Vivaldi team use MacOS and 2 GB is nothing.
I can work with 1000 tabs, even on Windows, this should not be a problem with Apple Silicon.
If you still want to try make a backup of your user install, Help > About should show where it is.
At your risk: https://vivaldi.com/de/download/archive/