Solved Sync Workspaces
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Hello, Jay from Learn Linux TV here! If you're not familiar with me, my YouTube channel sees almost a million views a month, and around 650,000 subscribers.
I'm currently in the process of producing a video that goes over the pros and cons of each of the popular browsers on Linux. Of course, Vivaldi is on my list and will have a segment in this video when it uploads late June.
That said, the fact that Vivaldi doesn't sync workspaces effectively is an absolutely embarrassing oversight. I mean absolutely no offense to anyone when I say this and I know this sounds harsh - but it's true.
The main reason for this, is because regardless of whether or not someone feels this feature is necessary (or even useful) Vivaldi's competition is already doing this. (Edge and Safari, for example). In order to stay competitive in the market, this feature really does need to be a priority.
One of my biggest points of frustration on this, is the mindset that "Vivaldi syncs tabs already". It absolutely doesn't. It does list tabs open on other devices, but that literally doesn't fit the definition of sync. If I create a workspace on one Vivaldi instance, all other computers with Vivaldi installed should then sync the fact that workspace was created. If I open a tab in an existing workspace, it needs to automatically be open in that same workspace on every device. If I close a tab on a device, it should close on every device. This is the way it works with Vivaldi's competition, and anything less wouldn't cut it.
I would love for a chance to mention in the Vivaldi segment of my video (which will see hundreds of thousands of views) that Vivaldi also competes when it comes to this feature. (As opposed from including this in my list of cons). I suppose I can always just say that Vivaldi's developers are working on it and the feature is coming soon, and still list it as a pro - but I can't assume Vivaldi will do it right until I get a chance to see it.
Also, to be fair, there's a few other browsers that do a terrible job of workspace syncing like Vivaldi currently does. But with some of the most popular browsers in existence going this direction - it's only a matter of time before all other browsers have this nailed down. I give it two years, tops.
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@jlacroix Workspaces are relatively new in Vivaldi.
They were first introduced in April 2023, and this topic was opened shortly afterwards. It is now the top most voted for request.
However, the Vivaldi Team is small, so it takes time to implement a major feature like this. Sync between multiple Operating Systems, also requires server space. It is unreasonable to compare Vivaldi to Edge, Safari, Opera, or other browsers with many more developers.
This is certainly not an oversight, but just one of hundreds of things to be done, some of which have been waiting for far longer, e.g. Multi-account Containers or Drag and Drop in Downloads Panel.
The PIPELINE tag, means that they want to do it, but do not currently have anyone actively working on it.
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Seems like syncing mobile would be a later feature.
Just splitting up synced tabs by their workspace would be nice between different desktops. I have Vivaldi on the laptop and mini PC and it would be nice to see that hierarchy within the Synced Tabs section.
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@Pesala
Sorry, but this whole post sounds like copium to me.@Pesala said in Sync Workspaces:
It is now the top most voted for request.
Ignoring the most voted request even if other features have been waiting far longer is just bad prioritization in my opinion.
@Pesala said in Sync Workspaces:
Sync between multiple Operating Systems, also requires server space. It is unreasonable to compare Vivaldi to Edge, Safari, Opera, or other browsers with many more developers.
But what I can do is compare Vivaldi, including its size and team, with the Arc Browser and the Browser Company. Both relatively small, and the latter even with a smaller Market share. 10x better syncing feature is part of the Arc browser. Restructuring the Tab sync to keep the workspaces in mind should not increase the "server space" requirements. Done right, this should be nothing more than a label. This should not be a "major feature".
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On chrome, group sync is already working. When the appropriate flag is enabled, it also synchronizes the chrome browser on android. As much as I dislike this browser, this functionality currently forces me to use it.
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@Slavco microsoft was first with that on Edge... it's on for months. It has auto-arrangement of the tabs into groups, syncing of workspaces and tab groups, even option to share workspace to another person.
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@vyrgozunqk Thanks for the reply !
Yes, I agree. I am currently testing this functionality on several PCs, unfortunately it does not yet support Android.Chrome can synchronize with Android, and this is the device I always have with me, so I really appreciate this functionality.
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@1n2Flow
Implementing this isn't simply a label.
There's functionality of opening the saved workspaces.
Auto syncing between devices and handling discrepancies per device.
You do not understand what implementing this the right way will take.This is a free browser. With no Investors.
Unlike Arc...
And with many more features than many other browsers including Arc.Patience.
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@Vallades said in Sync Workspaces:
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+1 to Workspace and Web Panel syncing.. I found this thread while searching on how to sync workspaces. I travel a lot and I find myself with unfinished work on my PC with multiple tabs opened in a workspace then having to manually re-open them in my laptop.
P.S. This does not reduce the love I feel towards the browser and certainly has no effect on the huge appreciation on the work of the team!
All the best team!.
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I don't mind the contents of the workspace not synced, but at least would like to not have to re-create workspaces across machine so they are labeled the same and have the same icon
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@miliano I have noticed that too when restoring tabs via sync: Tabs restore to their respective workspaces, but the workspaces themselves are not labeled, nor have the emoji/icon assigned in the source browser.
I still use Vivaldi for core browsing but moved 2 of my Vivaldi workspaces to Edge. I work between two locations on two different machines and my work has to follow me wherever I go.
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@redgerlyum said in Sync Workspaces:
I work between two locations on two different machines and my work has to follow me wherever I go.
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I am in the same position and although I like Vivaldi, I had to leave for now till it has proper sync of workspaces.
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It's the same for me. I love Vivaldi but without this functionality, I will have to keep using Arc instead.
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@jlacroix said in Sync Workspaces:
I'm currently in the process of producing a video that goes over the pros and cons of each of the popular browsers on Linux. Of course, Vivaldi is on my list and will have a segment in this video when it uploads late June.
Given it is now mid August and there is no such video on the channel, it appears that this is someone impersonating Learn Linux TV.
Could very well be wrong in my guess; very easy for videos to fall behind schedule or get pushed by other time sensitive videos, but this seems like a person trying to use the persona of a well known person to try and pressure Vivaldi into implementing the user's pet feature request. If this is a legitimate account, I would hope someone like Learn Linux TV wouldn't communicate in this manner.
Hopefully we don't see any more stuff like this on the forum in the future.
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You put Browser on another computer . Workspaces don't sync . you have to retype them . you like to have to redo them if you install on another computer
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I have just been scratching the surface of using Workspaces within Vivaldi... and boy is that functionality hampered when moving between machines!
The fact that these groups and careful organization of tabs is completely ignored in the sync makes it feel like the rollout of the Workspaces was rushed...
But then it gets more mind-boggling because the grouping of tabs is also ignored! I'm pretty diligent in manual tab management and these features missing makes the fluidity of work between machines/locations/sessions much more difficult.
I have abandoned Firefox (many years back around version 40, but I'm still salty about it and don't want to go back)
I was pulled away from Opera when Vivaldi added Android support, and don't really want to go back because I feel like Vivaldi has done a fantastic job of utilizing Chromium and other ready-made components to assemble a browser that is wonderfully configurable... without having to edit text settings or go to special tweaking areas that are hidden for a reason.
I don't feel like Opera or Firefox (from what I've seen recently) have the same superb granularity... and this feels like such a small thing to complain about... but I think it's becoming very apparent to everybody that's posted here that it isn't an option...
I'd rather see this, and a pinned-tabs-in-all-workspaces option, than any further work on things like Panels or Mail clients that don't really add much to eMail clients that already have web interfaces, for example. -
@CovenStine said in Sync Workspaces:
The fact that these groups and careful organization of tabs is completely ignored in the sync ...
You might want to keep an eye out for the upcoming version 6.9 (currently on RC 1). It brings with it the structure of tabs to sync.
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With Vivaldi 6.9 just released with Synced Tabs including the name of the workspaces, it seems we are getting closer and closer to actual syncing of workspaces.
I can now see my local workspace next to the remote workspace in the Windows window, which at least makes it really easy to duplicate the setup between machines.
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The Workspaces are now part of Sync in Vivaldi 6.9. Synced Tabs are grouped into Devices\Workspaces\Tab Stacks in the Windows Panel, making it easier to browse and open tabs from selected Workspace (or Tab Stack, or device).
The first post here is very generic, and technically, the requested feature is now implemented. I acknowledge that there are many other suggestions in this thread, expanding on the original idea - but since there are so many of them, and they're not always in line with each other, they should really be posted as separate requests.
Therefore, if you have ideas for other improvements in this (or any other) field, feel free to submit a new request.
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