Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality

Catweazle

@barbudo2005, no, the script work well, if not I also have alternative options. And yes, @luetage, I know it, but I prefer to use it with LibertyBear script manager (improved Violentmonkey fork), it offers more flexibility than an inbuild script.

luetage

@Catweazle No, it doesn’t offer more flexibility. It’s the other way around. Look, doesn’t matter to me what version you use, but inbuilt command chains are far more versatile than userscripts. You will be hard pressed creating a button anywhere in the UI from a userscript for example, or triggering it with a mouse gesture, or using it in combination with other commands. Taking advantage of native functionality makes quite some sense.

Catweazle

@luetage, ....until it caused an crash like the last script I use, Not so difficult to desactivate or delete a script in the manager.

In any case, YT is becoming a real problem for adblockers and also for many front-ends with these aggressive policies they carry out.
I understand that content creators want to monetize their contributions and also come across ads and banners on the YT page, you can live with this.

But what is intolerable and certainly does not help the creators, is putting even multi-minute advertorials in the middle of a 5-minute concert, completely destroying it (the reason why several authors have already moved to Odysee or directly terminated their account on YT).

In this greed of YT it is harming many that it claims to protect.

mossman

@Catweazle said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

Yesterday I saw "Adblockers are not allowed on YT" again in a video and others full of non-skippable ads .

YouTube was SO BAD last week that I was getting the same 2 unskippable ads (30 seconds + 90 seconds) EVERY 3 MINUTES throughout a half-hour video. (And on my TV it had gone from 2 short ads skippable at ~10 seconds to a 2 minute ad + a 5-10 minute music video / short film(!) both skippable only after 30+ seconds.)

Well done Google - you infuriated and alienated me so much that I went and discovered FreeTube for PCs (like NewPipe for Android). Now I'm not using your website at all.

royalkin

Manifest v3 prevents Ublock Origin from working, therefore if Vivaldi won't support Manifest v2 going forward, I WILL be using a different browser.

Goodbye!

Catweazle

@mossman, I use FreeTube since time, I recommend to install also SMplayer and set ii as external player in FreeTube, because also FreeTube is experimenting some blocks, as said, the Video is listed in the mainpage, but don't play, same as in other Front-ends (FreeTube use Invidious instances). In this case click on the little square down left in the Video, that open it then in the SMplayer, which reproduce almost everything.

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Stardust

@mossman said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

YouTube was SO BAD last week that I was getting the same 2 unskippable ads (30 seconds + 90 seconds) EVERY 3 MINUTES throughout a half-hour video. (And on my TV it had gone from 2 short ads skippable at ~10 seconds to a 2 minute ad + a 5-10 minute music video / short film(!) both skippable only after 30+ seconds.)

Has YouTube changed something again? My uBO keeps blocking everything, I never saw unskippable ads for years..

barbudo2005

@Stardust said:

Has YouTube changed something again? My uBO keeps blocking everything, I never saw unskippable ads for years.

Don't feel so happy, it's a country and time thing.

Stardust

@barbudo2005 we will see, uBO!

barbudo2005

@Stardust

I wish you that your happiness will never end.

stpvid1

Does Manifest 3 get rid of Third party cookies also?

Preorian

@stpvid1 said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

Does Manifest 3 get rid of Third party cookies also?

IIRC that was a separate thing.

eldritchsnail

For anyone worried about losing uBlock origin, might I propose a solution, at least for (some, hopefully all) Linux users?
I go to the github page for the uBlock changelog ( https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases ), and download the Chromium asset zip file, then unzip it in my Home directory, and copypaste the contents into a folder just titled "uBlock" (replacing the contents with every new update). If you put vivaldi extensions into developer mode, you can manually install uBlock from that file, without having to use the google webstore at all.
(instructions here, for anyone interested: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/tree/master/dist#install )
(P.S.: if I'm reading this whole situation wrong and uBlock won't even work while manually installed, please let me know because I'd like to prepare for that lol)
EDIT: also, does anyone know if the vivaldi team considering making their own extension architecture in the future at all?

Pathduck

@eldritchsnail Hi - good tip - however this won't work once Manifest v2 has been removed. You won't be able to add Mv2 extensions at all, even unpacked.

BTW I have no solutions for the problem of Mv2 being removed so don't ask

ybjrepnfr

@eldritchsnail said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

download the Chromium asset zip file

playing devil's advocate;

once google completely remove mv2 code from their engine next year, why would @gorhill bother still maintaining his chromium uBO mv2 code... ie, i suspect your idea might be severely time-limited...?

eldritchsnail

@Pathduck Ah, that's a shame, but thank you for clarifying!

ybjrepnfr

@Pathduck said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

BTW I have no solutions for the problem of Mv2 being removed

oh, i do...

Stardust

@ybjrepnfr said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

@Pathduck said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

BTW I have no solutions for the problem of Mv2 being removed

oh, i do...

F*****x?

barbudo2005

@Stardust

Said:

F*****x?

"x" means "ck" or "rp"?

ybjrepnfr

@barbudo2005 heehee, spot on, tis indeed rp, though ofc that's forked from the Fox.

fwiw, my enthusiasm for floorp [which is now the same kind of passion i once enjoyed from 2015 with vivaldi, rip], is coz it focuses on the stuff important to me in a browser, without any of the sad crap vivaldi has diverged off into & is thus irrelevant for me. once, the early mantra of being "a browser for our friends" resonated strongly with me, but unfortunately for the past several years those words seem more ironic than accurate.

the beginning of the end was the day [a few years ago] i finally got it thru my thick skull that vivaldi devs & jon seem entirely uninterested in giving us another tab management paradigm option, being tst, which is so palpably superior to the current meagre options. more recently though, with the advent of "don't be evil corp" mv2 shenanigans & the consequent impending death of chromium uBO, i realised that even if vivaldi magically gave me native tst tomorrow [with comparable functionality to sidebery], it still would be too late, coz i refuse to use any browser that can't run mv2 uBO.

tis all such a pity.