Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality

RiveDroite

@Stardust we all wish this!

Catweazle

Yesterday I saw "Adblockers are not allowed on YT" again in a video and others full of non-skippable ads alt text .
The only way that still works, apart to watch it in Poketube, is to use the "Redirect embedded script" again, which redirects the maximized video in a new tab, without ads, by clicking on a YT link.
It's a pretty simple 4 line script.

// ==UserScript==
// @name         Youtube Embed Redirect
// @namespace    https://www.youtube.com
// @version      1.0
// @description  Redirect Youtube Links to Embed Links
// @license      MIT
// @copyright    2023, Kraust (https://openuserjs.org/users/Kraust)
// @match        https://www.youtube.com/watch?*
// @match        https://www.youtube.com/watch/*
// @grant        none
// @updateURL    https://openuserjs.org/meta/Kraust/Youtube_Embed_Redirect.meta.js
// @downloadURL  https://openuserjs.org/install/Kraust/Youtube_Embed_Redirect.user.js
// ==/UserScript==

function redirect() {
  var parms = new URLSearchParams(window.location.search);
  window.location = "/embed/" + parms.get("v");
}

(function () {
  redirect();
})();

In all other places the Vivaldi blocker works perfectly. But apparently, Google is really in a war against adblockers.

zakius

@RiveDroite honestly... Opera was in similar spot to where Vivaldi will be soon: a lot of built in features, some great, many rough around the edges and some had a lot to be desired, unfortunately the extensions API wasn't up to the task of supplementing missing features

don't get me wrong, it's Opera that made me love RSS and mouse gestures (and that made me suffer so much in the current state of browsers market), but M2 (and Vivaldi reader for that matter) missed some UX niceties I got to love in Newsfox and the content blocker was severely lacking, especially UX wise

JoeBecomeTheSun

@Preorian All that Vivaldi would have to do is to use uBlock Origin as its adblocking engine and integrate it deep enough into the browser engine that it can have all of the features it does on Firefox. An alternative solution would the adblock-rust on the brave software GitHub. As for filter lists all that is needed is to simply use the default filter lists that already appear in the filter lists tab on the uBlock settings panel because that curation already works.

barbudo2005

@Catweazle

Said:

The only way that still works, apart to watch it in Poketube…

There are 2 additional simple ways to watch YT without ads:

1.- Watch the video in a video player like MPC-BE.

2.- Watch it in a Feed reader & player like Feedbro. The idea is to transfer all the subscriptions to Feedbro and therefore not having to use the YT page.

As I know this topic is country dependent, I ask you @Catweazle :

Those problematic videos are viewed without problems in the mentioned options?

Catweazle

@barbudo2005, yes and no, whether viewing the videos embedded, such as in iFrame, through a feed, through a front-end or some external app... they all face the same problem of not being able to show the video when the permission to view it outsidef the YT page is disabled, which occurs in some. In this case the notice appears "The video cannot be displayed, watch it on YouTube". Luckily it rarely happens

barbudo2005

@Catweazle

My case (5%) at Feedbro is different. This image appears, but if I paste it in MPC-BE it is seen without problem.

Does this script no longer work for you? It was updated today.

luetage

@Catweazle said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

It's a pretty simple 4 line script.

I created a native command chain for embed youtube a while back, no userscript needed. See here ☛ https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/747513

Catweazle

@barbudo2005, no, the script work well, if not I also have alternative options. And yes, @luetage, I know it, but I prefer to use it with LibertyBear script manager (improved Violentmonkey fork), it offers more flexibility than an inbuild script.

luetage

@Catweazle No, it doesn’t offer more flexibility. It’s the other way around. Look, doesn’t matter to me what version you use, but inbuilt command chains are far more versatile than userscripts. You will be hard pressed creating a button anywhere in the UI from a userscript for example, or triggering it with a mouse gesture, or using it in combination with other commands. Taking advantage of native functionality makes quite some sense.

Catweazle

@luetage, ....until it caused an crash like the last script I use, Not so difficult to desactivate or delete a script in the manager.

In any case, YT is becoming a real problem for adblockers and also for many front-ends with these aggressive policies they carry out.
I understand that content creators want to monetize their contributions and also come across ads and banners on the YT page, you can live with this.

But what is intolerable and certainly does not help the creators, is putting even multi-minute advertorials in the middle of a 5-minute concert, completely destroying it (the reason why several authors have already moved to Odysee or directly terminated their account on YT).

In this greed of YT it is harming many that it claims to protect.

mossman

@Catweazle said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

Yesterday I saw "Adblockers are not allowed on YT" again in a video and others full of non-skippable ads .

YouTube was SO BAD last week that I was getting the same 2 unskippable ads (30 seconds + 90 seconds) EVERY 3 MINUTES throughout a half-hour video. (And on my TV it had gone from 2 short ads skippable at ~10 seconds to a 2 minute ad + a 5-10 minute music video / short film(!) both skippable only after 30+ seconds.)

Well done Google - you infuriated and alienated me so much that I went and discovered FreeTube for PCs (like NewPipe for Android). Now I'm not using your website at all.

royalkin

Manifest v3 prevents Ublock Origin from working, therefore if Vivaldi won't support Manifest v2 going forward, I WILL be using a different browser.

Goodbye!

Catweazle

@mossman, I use FreeTube since time, I recommend to install also SMplayer and set ii as external player in FreeTube, because also FreeTube is experimenting some blocks, as said, the Video is listed in the mainpage, but don't play, same as in other Front-ends (FreeTube use Invidious instances). In this case click on the little square down left in the Video, that open it then in the SMplayer, which reproduce almost everything.

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Stardust

@mossman said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

YouTube was SO BAD last week that I was getting the same 2 unskippable ads (30 seconds + 90 seconds) EVERY 3 MINUTES throughout a half-hour video. (And on my TV it had gone from 2 short ads skippable at ~10 seconds to a 2 minute ad + a 5-10 minute music video / short film(!) both skippable only after 30+ seconds.)

Has YouTube changed something again? My uBO keeps blocking everything, I never saw unskippable ads for years..

barbudo2005

@Stardust said:

Has YouTube changed something again? My uBO keeps blocking everything, I never saw unskippable ads for years.

Don't feel so happy, it's a country and time thing.

Stardust

@barbudo2005 we will see, uBO!

barbudo2005

@Stardust

I wish you that your happiness will never end.

stpvid1

Does Manifest 3 get rid of Third party cookies also?

Preorian

@stpvid1 said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:

Does Manifest 3 get rid of Third party cookies also?

IIRC that was a separate thing.