V 6.7 | No automatic update information in Linux?
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Previously, I was given the opportunity to update shortly after the release of a new update in the Linux update manager, but not since 6.7.
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@daniel I know that already since I'm using Vivaldi for several years on Linux.
This time, after update to 6.7, there is no update available in update manager, although there was a minor update. -
Strange, i started my Debian 12 and still have the Stable .17.
Got no newer with enabled unattended-upgrades and the software updater did not kick in.
I will wait 1 hour and recheck again.
//EDIT: Now (20 mssn later) KDE Discover showed me newer Vivaldi Stable. -
@DoctorG With "Refresh" of the update manager, Vivaldi's update did appear finally.
In the settings - without me being aware of it - it was set that only notifications of security and kernel updates are visible. I did not consciously set it that way and will continue to monitor it. -
@Dancer18 I use unatteded update for Vivaldi to stay safe.
How to ⇒ https://labs.gwendragon.de/blog/Computer/Linux/vivaldi-mit-unattended-upgrades-automatisch-aktuell-halten -
@DoctorG Thank you for your tutorial. However, in my LMDE 6, that is debian-based Mint, there is no such file
etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
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@Dancer18 Had you installed the package unattended-upgrades?
I will check my Mint 21. aAfter installing unattended-upgrades the file
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
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@DoctorG I had to install the package in LMDE 6.
After that I followed your tutorial.
However, afterapt update
there is listed not only Vivaldi (that I exclusively added in that file) but also Opera and some other packages.
I wouldn't care about that. If I want to leave out an update I can uncheck it. -
@Dancer18 _sudo apt update is not the same as sudo unattended-upgrade
unattended-upgrade works in background at daily start of Linux and updates only what is set as to be updated in config 50unattended-upgrades.
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@Dancer18 said in V 6.7 | No automatic update information in Linux?:
If I want to leave out an update I can uncheck it
Yes, i understand your needs. As a single user on your PC, you can check what you want to update.
But for me and my partner updating browser without user interaction is very important as we use our Linux PCs for office work.
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@DoctorG Update notification still not work with having installed
unattended-upgrade
with these settings:Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern { // Codename based matching: // This will follow the migration of a release through different // archives (e.g. from testing to stable and later oldstable). // Software will be the latest available for the named release, // but the Debian release itself will not be automatically upgraded. // "origin=Debian,codename=${distro_codename}-updates"; // "origin=Debian,codename=${distro_codename}-proposed-updates"; "origin=Debian,codename=${distro_codename},label=Debian"; "origin=Debian,codename=${distro_codename},label=Debian-Security"; "origin=Debian,codename=${distro_codename}-security,label=Debian-Security"; "o=Vivaldi Technologies,a=stable"; // Archive or Suite based matching: // Note that this will silently match a different release after // migration to the specified archive (e.g. testing becomes the // new stable). "o=Debian,a=stable"; "o=Debian,a=stable-updates"; // "o=Debian,a=proposed-updates"; // "o=Debian Backports,a=${distro_codename}-backports,l=Debian Backports"; };
Anything wrong?
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@Dancer18 said in V 6.7 | No automatic update information in Linux?:
Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern
All ok.
Do you have this in 20auto-upgrades?
test@debora:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1";
Can you check when the next update kicks in?
systemctl list-timers | grep "LEFT\|apt"
Update notification still not work
You will not get a notification as the update is done in background at system start by apt.
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@DoctorG said in V 6.7 | No automatic update information in Linux?:
systemctl list-timers | grep "LEFT|apt"
Yes I have same settings in 20auto-upgrades.
systemctl list-timers | grep "LEFT\|apt" NEXT LEFT LAST PASSED UNIT ACTIVATES Thu 2024-05-09 15:31:46 CEST 3h 53min left Wed 2024-05-08 19:40:28 CEST 15h ago apt-daily.timer apt-daily.service Fri 2024-05-10 06:12:48 CEST 18h left Thu 2024-05-09 06:25:30 CEST 5h 13min ago apt-daily-upgrade.timer apt-daily-upgrade.service
I read that latest update was 21h hours ago, so it should have been displayed in update manager already.
Should I write a thread in Mint forum too about it? Because it happens since I'm on LMDE 6 instead of LM 21.3 (both Cinnamon). -
@Dancer18 said in V 6.7 | No automatic update information in Linux?:
15:31:46
If you don't mind, wait until 16:00 CEST and watch if update kicked in!
Should I write a thread in Mint forum too about it? Because it happens since I'm on LMDE 6 instead of LM 21.3 (both Cinnamon).
Yes, would be good to ask there too. Please report back if they know more.
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@DoctorG I have spoiled it with refresh option. Now the update is available.
However, it should have been displayed before. In the past it was very few hours after announcing it in this forum, not 21h. -
@Dancer18 On my .24 on Debian 12 KDE i do not see any notification in address bar for a new version.
But i remember in the past with older versions sometimes there was one. Strange. -
@DoctorG I just found out that there are new sections in the settings, regarding time to display and "Only show security updates" etc..
There were settings there that probably caused the delay or non-notification. Now I have changed the settings, here is a screenshot (in German):
In second section I had set automatic refresh after 2 days!
In the 3rd section Only show security and kernel updates! -
@Dancer18 Thanks for sharing this.
I rarely use my german Linux Mint and do not know about their update process settings.
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Now, after the update timer started apt in background, i got a notification in Vivaldi address bar.