Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12
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@ourostra said in Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12:
If Privacy Guard is ultimately a paid solution, I think more users would be happy with the integration of the TOR network
That's a more interesting - likely more secure - option... and open source.
But I really like that you are looking for new privacy solutions and allowing users to test them
True - and look at the instant black/white debate it causes...
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@mossman, there are certainly better alternatives, SPN, Snowflake, I2P.... but if you use it only to skip country restrictions in Videos or streamings, a simple Proxie can be enough, any free extension, like the mencioned CyberGhost can do this.
But for the need of real privacy in some countries with strong dictatorship or for journalists in these countries, a inbuild or extension VPN isn't enough, there is always a Desktop app needed, because it need to create the tunnel BEFORE the browser connect to the ISP server.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@Ayespy said in Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12:
@greenenemy Very often, the name "VPN" is a lie. Opera Browser's "free VPN" is not actually a VPN at all, but a proxy service (which collects and sells data). Many "VPNs" are actually just proxies, mis-named. A real VPN (which no one offers for free as nearly as I can tell) encrypts your traffic and sends it through a secure tunnel from point-to-point. A proxy just spoofs your IP address and encrypts nothing. As a rule, an actual VPN safeguards your entire system and all internet traffic. A proxy is only employed by a single app and, again, does not offer VPN protection. I would guess that Vivaldi would not like to lie to their users by pretending Privacy Guard is a VPN when it isn't, and can't be.
Thanks for the extensive explanation.
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@Gregor more revenue = more developers. Can't blame a for profit company trying to make money.
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Tested the privacy guard thing and it worked in general but two streaming sites went kaput even with the exception added. Regarding exceptions it should allow domain wildcards directly from the address bar without having to go to settings.
P.S. One of the borked stream sites started to work after a wild card rule despite not showing as bypassed in the popup from the address bar button. The other is still borked with an out of region notice.
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Something from US combined something ragarding VPN/Pricacy ? Theres a no from me
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Privacy guard: For the time being and bearing in mind that this is just a trial with limited functionality (most of all no location selection), I found it to be good. First it really hid my IP and second I didn't experience any significant speed loss. Since I am not familiar with the service I have to rely on Vivaldi team to assure me (as certain as someone can be) that this vpn alternative is really safe to use. If somebody knows where to find proper tests it would be useful to mention it here.
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@nutcracker, you can check your data with this privacy thing on in Browserleaks and compare it with your real data. It shows what every site knows about you when you visit these.
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I don't see a reason to pay for something which I can setup myself on my own VPS for free.
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Teşekkürler Vivaldi çok beğendim test ettim herkese tavsiye ediyorum ücretsiz ve ülke seçenekleri artarsa süper olur.
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@beykozlu, Topluluğa hoş geldiniz ve Vivaldi'nin tadını çıkarın. Ancak genel forumda lütfen İngilizce kullanın veya yerel Türkçe foruma gidin.
https://forum.vivaldi.net/category/29/türkçe-turkish -
Some people isn't bothered about whether Invisv it's a VPN or a Proxy instead
"You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you" · Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
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@Zalex108, for what I use them for, I don't care at all if it's a VPN or a Proxie, since they work the same for this use, I only care that they have a good PP, TOS and enough speed for streaming, apart that they offer a server of the country of the Video I want to watch.
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Why not implement TOR instead of this functionality, as it is basically the same concept?
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Privacy Guard! looking forward to the new version.
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@Catweazle said in Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12:
@mossman, there are certainly better alternatives, SPN, Snowflake, I2P.... but if you use it only to skip country restrictions in Videos or streamings, a simple Proxie can be enough, any free extension, like the mencioned CyberGhost can do this.
But for the need of real privacy in some countries with strong dictatorship or for journalists in these countries, a inbuild or extension VPN isn't enough, there is always a Desktop app needed, because it need to create the tunnel BEFORE the browser connect to the ISP server.I've used the Tor browser and - if I understand correctly - it is exactly as you describe; part of it sets up TOR routing then the rest runs a version of Firefox.
Pretty sure a Vivaldi version for TOR could work in the same way...
Edit: while we're on the subject, for secure messaging there's an interesting open source one called Briar - that uses TOR and (this I find quite intriguing) it can even facilitate secure messaging when there's no internet! - it will hold queued messages and pass them on to devices of your trusted users via Bluetooth and local sharing! That means peer-to-peer messaging continues in disaster areas and when there are political situations. I made an account but unfortunately I know no-one who uses it - I'd be happy to see this one get more traction versus big social...
Edit again: forgot to add that since Briar is a smartphone app, you don't need to be on a desktop to be using a TOR-routed browser...
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@mossman More or less. The correct way to do TOR would be:
- a Live USB (Tails) with nothing saved on the machine;
- Tor Browser: a Firefox with settings modified to be secured... no scripts enabled, no telemetry and so on);
- Possibly, a VPN too.
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I would much rather see effort being poured into the top requested feature running on for 6 years almost, rather than a proxy service. And the feature request im mentioning "can" be fixed with a addon .. so can a proxy. Kind of disappointed honestly.
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@lyooth As a paid service to give Vivaldi more ressources?
Further development of extra features depends on financial and human ressources.
