Solved Is my email address @vivaldi.net active, if I did not provide a telephone number or a I did not still gain the reputation?

DoctorG

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alessiobrancolini

Thank you for your answer!

In any case nobody can write an email to that email address until it is verified. I will wait some time then...

alessiobrancolini

I sent an email to my email address @vivaldi.net and I get:

- These recipients of your message have been processed by the mail server:
[email protected]; Relayed

How should this be interpreted?

It seems that the email address is receiving email (but I cannot read it...).

If I send an email to a non-existent Vivaldi account I get:

- These recipients of your message have been processed by the mail server:
[email protected]; Failed; 5.1.1 (bad destination mailbox address)

I would have expected that my actual email address cannot receive email, if it is not verified.

DoctorG

@alessiobrancolini said in Is my email address @vivaldi.net active, if I did not provide a telephone number or a I did not still gain the reputation?:

I sent an email to my email address

Why? To nag a mail server?

alessiobrancolini

@DoctorG said in Is my email address @vivaldi.net active, if I did not provide a telephone number or a I did not still gain the reputation?:

@alessiobrancolini said in Is my email address @vivaldi.net active, if I did not provide a telephone number or a I did not still gain the reputation?:

I sent an email to my email address

Why? To nag a mail server?

Suppose I shared my email @vivaldi.net address with someone. Now they could send me emails that I cannot read...

DoctorG

@alessiobrancolini I do not know why you share what you are not able to access.

I hope you can read them when you had enough reputation.

Pathduck

@alessiobrancolini Have you actually tried to log in to webmail.vivaldi.net? Does it give an error message, and if so what?

DoctorG

@Pathduck User has reputation 0.

DoctorG

@alessiobrancolini I can tell, Webmail gives you Access Denied ⇒ Help

alessiobrancolini

@DoctorG said in Is my email address @vivaldi.net active, if I did not provide a telephone number or a I did not still gain the reputation?:

@alessiobrancolini I do not know why you share what you are not able to access.

I hope you can read them when you had enough reputation.

Of course, I did not share the email with someone else.

Nevertheless, this is a design flaw (in my humble opinion): an email address can receive emails, but the account owner cannot read it.

DoctorG

@alessiobrancolini said in Is my email address @vivaldi.net active, if I did not provide a telephone number or a I did not still gain the reputation?:

this is a design flaw

If you think so.
But, why should "your" mail address, which you do not own, reject mails? That is useless, too.

alessiobrancolini

@DoctorG said in Is my email address @vivaldi.net active, if I did not provide a telephone number or a I did not still gain the reputation?:

@alessiobrancolini said in Is my email address @vivaldi.net active, if I did not provide a telephone number or a I did not still gain the reputation?:

this is a design flaw

If you think so.
But, why should "your" mail address, which you do not own, reject mails? That is useless, too.

Because nobody (not even its owner) can read it.

It is a mailbox where everyone can put letters inside, but nobody has the key to open it.

DoctorG

@alessiobrancolini said in Is my email address @vivaldi.net active, if I did not provide a telephone number or a I did not still gain the reputation?:

Because nobody (not even its owner) can read it.

I do not remember a RFC internet standard which forces server admins to act like you want to have it.
I leave this discussion now.

DoctorG

@alessiobrancolini I sent you test mails just to see what the server responds in my mail client.
//EDIT: I can send you a mail.

I guess received mails to your Vivaldi mail address will stay in your inbox and do not get lost.

//EDIT2:
OK, i notified our mail server team about the issue with mails which can be sent to a not-approved account. They will fix this.

Thanks for reporting here an starting such interesting discussion which lead me to ping the server team.
I gave you some upvotes now. Good for your reputation

thomasp

@alessiobrancolini @DoctorG this behaviour has now been changed. Mails sent to an account without sufficient reputation for webmail access will now be bounced instead of accepted.

DoctorG

@thomasp Nice, works.
Response mail from mail server daemon says now:
"Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table (in reply to RCPT TO command)"
As i like to see.

alessiobrancolini

@DoctorG @thomasp Great! The issue is solved.

@Ayespy @Pathduck Thank you for your help as well!

irontux

Just providing my two cents as a newbie user.

It is not apparent from the email account request page that a new reputation point system for email provisioning is in place. After several head-scratches, I stumbled upon the change in webmail provisioning in the News section.

You might want to put an asterick (*) on https://vivaldi.com/email-signup/ under the Free account box to let users know about the reputation point system.

Just a suggestion from a user new to the Vivaldi experience....

Shrimphead

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