Tab Bar Below Address Bar
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@pesala said in Tabs in the logical position, on top of the active window, below other bars:
I searched, but could not find any other topics like this one
... maybe that is partly due to the spam filter? I'm positive the tabbar position issue is good for increased blood pressure and such stuff ... ;-))
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@zajaa That would only apply to those few who prefer it in an illogical position.
Due to Fitts’ Law, it is much more efficient to have the tabs at the very top of the window. I realise that a small minority do not maximise the Vivaldi window, and a few others use a native window with a Title bar at the top.
What increases my blood-pressure is users expecting/demanding that Vivaldi should be just like their previous browser, in which case, why switch?
Switching a tool that you have used every day for years is sure to require some adjustment, like moving house, or changing your car. If you're not willing to make any effort to adapt, your blood-pressure may rise.
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I'm sorry, I sincerely apologize for having caused so much confusion.
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mentioning "blood pressure" was meant to suggest a reason for the scarcity of results when searching for this issue, considering the somewhat strict settings of this forum's spam filter. I myself only admit to a slight increase when realizing that my previously written comment had been refused by "askimet.com" (?)
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I am! one of those few others who insists on having a title bar on a browser, and sometimes use my browser in unmaximized windows. That is on Xubuntu, meaning: Linux with an xfce4 desktop.
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In cases like mine, Fitt's law would lead to a different assessment of the tab bar's position - do you agree?
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I guess you're not telling me I shouldn't insist on those decisions (in "2"), or are you?
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I really do not! demand of Vivaldi to be just like my "previous browser".
I would plead for Vivaldi to provide a checkbox in the settings to make it behave the way it behaved before the last update.
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Not mentioning all other browsers I tried & discarded, my browser usage history goes like:Firefox from around 2001 to version 78
troubled by repeatedly having to struggle to return to my preferred settingswitched to Waterfox when Firefox switched to proton
Waterfox having a check box for the bar positionInstalled Vivaldi as second browser some months ago, it had it's tab bar in my preferred position.
Which changed with the last update [4.3.2439.65 (Stable channel) stable (64-Bit)]
#############Again: I do not demand Vivaldi to imitate any other browser, I'd like it to offer a simple user setting to be able to keep (!) it's previous layout.
As far as I can remember, such thing has been done before. -
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My very first thread on these forums quickly turned into a long discussion of why I don't like to upgrade very often. And this issue is exactly why: thanks to the great users on this forum, I've always found some custom CSS or JS to move things where I want them, but nearly every time I upgrade, everything breaks again and it takes me hours to work out what the magic incantation is to fix it this time. If this option were added, my upgrade reluctance would probably vanish overnight.
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@barefootcoder said in Tab Bar Below Address Bar:
My very first thread on these forums quickly turned into a long discussion of why I don't like to upgrade very often. And this issue is exactly why: thanks to the great users on this forum, I've always found some custom CSS or JS to move things where I want them, but nearly every time I upgrade, everything breaks again and it takes me hours to work out what the magic incantation is to fix it this time. If this option were added, my upgrade reluctance would probably vanish overnight.
Indeed. The entire reason I want to move to Vivaldi is because Firefox breaks my CSS customization every update. I don't expect Vivaldi to have every option, but this one is just so basic. Like, it was standard in browsers for years!
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And, just so the devs are aware this is still a problem, I have once again upgraded (5.2 => 5.3), and my toolbars are all borked again, and I'm once again here on the forums looking for help to fix it. The lack of this feature continues to reinforce my irrational notion that upgrading is Bad, because it costs me time and frustration every time. I would really love to feel like upgrading was easy again.
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@barefootcoder See the update to my CSS mod here: https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/598603
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@barefootcoder said in Tab Bar Below Address Bar:
my toolbars are all borked again,
This is to be expected. The UI is undergoing an incremental rebuild. Custom CSS will take a beating, I'm sure.
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@Ayespy said in Tab Bar Below Address Bar:
@barefootcoder said in Tab Bar Below Address Bar:
my toolbars are all borked again,
This is to be expected. The UI is undergoing an incremental rebuild. Custom CSS will take a beating, I'm sure.
Completely understandable. The point of this thread (as I understand it anyway) is to lobby for making this particular custom CSS unnecessary: if this feature could be added as an option, I would have no need for custom CSS at all.
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This definitely should be added. I was about to make a feature request for this before I found this thread.