Still getting copy/paste problems
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@Aaron Yes, you are true.
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@DoctorG Shame...I won't write bug reports yet...
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@Aaron No report results in: Vivaldi devs are not able to check and fix.
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@DoctorG I will learn how to write a bug report later.
Now I'm testing and validating another feature or Bug on 5 different phones:
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@Aaron said in Still getting copy/paste problems:
I will learn how to write a bug report later.
Nice to read that
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@Aaron You still need some kind of server to do that be it the display server or a mouse server, well both don't work if you haven't set up your kernel to support mouse devices in the first place, so this discussion can become painfully anal-retentive for the sake of it.
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@npro said in Still getting copy/paste problems:
You still need some kind of server to do that
Sorry, didn't understand you. Are you talking about CLI mode?
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Otoh,
@npro said in Still getting copy/paste problems:
with X11
Fwiw: In Plasma Wayland for many major sub-versions in the 5 series, the clipboard & selection/mmb behaviour was awful; very unreliable & unpredictable. Happily though, the current & recent major sub-versions have behaved really very much better, & overall now it's a much cheerier less stressful copying & pasting experience, both ways, than before. A major part of this iterative improvement afaik is that the Devs seem to have ironed out the bugs causing so much grief depending whether the source & target apps were running as xwayland or wayland apps.
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@DoctorG It's not a consistent bug, but here is a typical scenario:
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copy text from a source such as a website, a PDF or a document. This can be from inside the browser, from another browser, or from a separate document.
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paste in a field in Vivaldi using ctrl+v, but nothing happens. This bug occurs for me in Vivaldi Notes, Google Docs and Office365's web interface. It even happens in these forums.
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focus on the address bar and paste with ctrl+v. If there is text in the clipboard, this paste works without fail.
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focus back on the original field in the browser. Now pasting works.
The issue is very haphazard, though I estimate I encounter it in 30% of pasting text. I've not encountered it pasting rich media.
I copy and paste without problems for a stretch, then the bug will start. Sometimes it stops with the above sequence, and sometimes I have to refresh the page (such as a Google Doc) to stop the behaviour.
Steps I've taken to isolate the problem:
- Used different keyboards
- Used different devices
- Tested the paste in other browsers, in the same services
The problem only occurs in Vivaldi. I'm using 5.2.2623.46 (Stable channel) stable (64-bit) on Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS.
thank you,
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@npro Thanks, but I don't think you understood my issue. I have never encountered this problem with Chrome, Firefox, Brave, Opera, IE or Edge. As in never. And I still don't - I use several browser and not one has this issue. It is only in Vivaldi where I run into this bug.
Thanks for suggesting quick commands. But I'm not going to start using commands for a bug that no other browser creates. This issue is a drawback for Vivaldi and it would be great if someone fixed it.
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@pekli Thank you, but that is not the problem. The problem is that Vivaldi often fails to paste text that is in the clipboard. Pasting into a different field first - such as the address bar - fixes the bug. I'm not having problems copy/pasting in the address bar.
Also, ctrl+c and ctrl+v work fine in Ubuntu. No need to use the context menu (and you can't use a context menu to copy/paste in Google Docs without a plugin, so keyboard shortcuts are preferred). Vivaldi is the only application giving me issues when pasting text. This is not an Ubuntu or Linux issue.
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I'm experiencing the exact same problem as @blahsum
Vivaldi: 5.3.2679.38 (Stable channel) (x86_64)
OS: macOS Version 11.2.2 (Build 20D80)I confirm this is 100% a Vivaldi issue, unrelated to hardware etc.
A couple of additional details:- if the situation where ctrl+v does not work happens, shift+ctrl+v would paste the copied text to the address bar and "go" in the tab you are trying to paste to.
- if the situation where ctrl+v does not work happens, right click->paste, works fine.
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Paste issue Ctrl+Shift+V in Google Docs is a known bug in Vivaldi.
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@Szkieuko I also found that if you double-click the text area so it highlights a single blank space, pasting works. That's my primary workaround now, though I still want to stress that this bug really shouldn't exist. It inhibits a very fundamental use of a browser and is the primary reason why I don't recommend Vivaldi to people I know.
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I find this thread quite confusing. It's not at all clear to me if everyone posting, above, is necessarily talking about the same thing.
- The thread Subject name,
Still getting copy/paste problems, implies c/p globally/generically - Conversely, the actual OP only mentions the narrow case of the url-bar
- Other posters seem to allude to alternative sources & targets
- Nobody has clarified if they are using X11, or Wayland, & if the latter then if both the source & target apps are running as Wayland or Xwayland apps [it makes a difference!]
- Some peeps refer to the selection buffer, others imply the clipboard, some seem unaware of the distinction [it makes a difference!]
- Have those claiming a problem, verified their claim also in a clean test profile?
I wrote this part of my post
using the selection buffer [source = earlier posts in this thread] + MMB paste, in V Snappie 5.3.2679.46, in Arch KDE X11. It worked perfectly 100% of the time.- It's not a consistent bug, but here is a typical
success - Fwiw: In Plasma Wayland for many major sub-versions in the 5 series success
- Are you talking about CLI mode? success
- You still need some kind of server to do that success
- No report results in: Vivaldi devs are not able to check and fix success
Now from here onwards
, i shall attempt several pure clipboard c/p operations, not the selection buffer [source = earlier posts in this thread] :- https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/75633/still-getting-copy-paste-problems success
- Worksfineforme
in Snapshot, though I usually triple-click to copy the url success - The only browser together with Midori, Falkon, Otter, Brave, Chrome, Chromium, Opera, sure success
- triple-click copies it to the selection buffer not the clipboard buffer, are you sure we are talking about the same thing?
success - if you would be using Arch you would be probably knowing that already, so you'd spare yourself tiring fingerpressure... time to switch? success
- Had you reported a bug now? success
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Now to test sources external to V.
Kate [KDE text editor], via selection buffer + MMB paste:
- Mix 1/2 cup of liquid dish soap with 1 1/2 cups of baking soda and 1/4 cup of white vinegar. Mix it into a paste and dab around the inside of your oven with an old toothbrush or abrasive sponge. Allow it to sit overnight and wipe away the paste the following day with a sponge and clean water. Voila! success
Kate [KDE text editor], via clipboard:
- If your oven is dirty and you don’t have a bottle of oven cleaner on hand, or simply prefer an entirely natural solution, try using a combination of vinegar and baking soda. Sean Parry of Neat Services suggests mixing one-half cup of baking soda with water to create a paste. “Next, spread the paste all over the bottom of the oven, the side walls, and the inside of the glass oven door, but avoid the heating elements,” he says. success
Okular [KDE PDF Editor], via selection buffer + MMB paste:
- This document must not be copied without our written permission, and the contents there of must not be imparted to a third party nor be used for any unauthorized purpose. success [
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Okular [KDE PDF Editor], via clipboard:
- The parts and components have been carefully selected to meet RoHS requirement. Moreover, we at BLEEP are continuing our efforts to develop products that do not use internationally banned toxic chemicals. success
Thunderbird, via selection buffer + MMB paste:
- Your electricity account is now ready for viewing and/or payment. You’ll see a summary below of your current account and a copy is attached for your reference. success
Thunderbird, via clipboard:
- Thanks for your Safe Drop request. The Safe Drop instructions for your delivery from Chempro Online Pty Ltd are: on the front porch. success
I can't speak globally [until Come the Revolution...] but at least for my use-case with my usage patterns, V simply has no selection-buffer or clipboard problems, in Plasma X11.
Last year, in Plasma Wayland, there were random problems, but with numerous apps not just V. That was due to the still-buggy Plasma Wayland deployment then. Subsequently, tremendous Plasma W improvements have occurred, so nowadays it's vastly better.
Problem? What problem?
- The thread Subject name,
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I'm having copy/paste problems on MacOS, but the odd thing is, it only happens when I'm trying to copy a string from the devtools using Command-C.
Pasting works as expected, as far as I can tell: Vivaldi will paste whatever's in the clipboard, it's just that the clipboard doesn't get updated when I hit Command-C. I'm able to see the history of clipboard contents from CopyClip, a clipboard tool I'm using.
For example, if I select the text content from a DOM node's class with the right mouse button and copy it that way, I can see that the clipboard history is updated with what I have selected. However, whenever I try to do the same thing with Command-C, the clipboard doesn't update, so pasting will just paste whatever was in the clipboard before.
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Linux is different from Mac!
Please ask for MacOS issues at https://forum.vivaldi.net/category/34/vivaldi-for-macos
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@guigirl Thank you for trying to troubleshoot the issue. You obviously don't have the issue, which goes some way to explain why the bug hasn't been fixed. It's not apparent enough for the developers to chase.
Not that it matters. I've passively switched back to Firefox and Chrome just because the combination of copy/paste issues and inability to focus on a Google Docs field after tab-switching has forced me back to other browsers. Vivaldi has become a white elephant on my system.
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@guigirl Sorry, I don't follow.
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