Importing from M2
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@mossman I was thinking about this - I suppose then I can import mail into stable, and when I'm happy everything has worked properly I can move it to the same drive the Opera mail data is stored and link to it from the Vivaldi profile directory...
Good to know!
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@mossman said in Importing from M2:
@mossman I was thinking about this - I suppose then I can import mail into stable, and when I'm happy everything has worked properly I can move it to the same drive the Opera mail data is stored and link to it from the Vivaldi profile directory...
Good to know!
My snapshot was borked, so I just reinstalled and tried to import mail again using mlkink this time. Didn't work...
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@mossman said in Importing from M2:
@mossman said in Importing from M2:
@mossman I was thinking about this - I suppose then I can import mail into stable, and when I'm happy everything has worked properly I can move it to the same drive the Opera mail data is stored and link to it from the Vivaldi profile directory...
Good to know!
My snapshot was borked, so I just reinstalled and tried to import mail again using
mlkinkmklink this time. Didn't work...Aaaaand today I tried it by re-naming the mail directory to "mail" and selecting the directory above (containing contacts.adr)... and that didn't work either. All the more frustrating that it did import after several attempts that one time... weird!
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Vivaldi 3.8.2238.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
Revision 6f89cf57a027cee5f161aa3686153f27e233f433
OS Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (Build 7601.24544)Import is working:
I have two paths:
C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera x64 <- there was contacts.adr
C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Opera\Opera x64 <- there was the restsimply copied contacts.adr to the folder C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Opera\Opera x64 - after that Import started
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@verdi Yes, it's very strange - for me it usually doesn't work but then suddenly it does.
As you bumped the thread I tried again (renaming the folder on my other drive to "mail") and today it started importing. I already had the contacts.adr file in the folder above that but it refused to do anything when I tried about ten times last week...
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Thanks at first for this post, it really is what I was looking for. However in contrast, it didn't work for me to import my email and contacts properly from Opera Mail to Vivaldi Mail.
Despite I put the contacts.adr in the mail folder, and it started to import everything, I came accross the following two-three issues which is why I had to abort the import:
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e.g. it mixed IMAP account folders from AIM Mail account (which AOL migrated to AOLMail putting their AIM Mails in a separated IMAP folder for each former registered mail account alias) and showed them in my POP3 POP3 web.de account
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E,g, it couldn't detect the inbox folder of my GMX.de pop3 mail account and imported it as unknown imported folder"
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it imported only 1 email address of my contacts.adr, i.e. the contact with the name "HΓ₯kan Sundell"
Looks like the 'Γ₯' made Vivalidi mail to ignore all other contacts in that file?
are those issues known or shall I import than to somewhere? I found no workaround or "fix" for either of those issues.
Thanks in advance!
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No luck for me. It doesn' matter which folder i choose (Opera, mail, profile, store) in my Opera 12.18 portable edition. Even copy the contacts.adr to the several folders didn't help.
When choosing the profile-folder and do the import: after a short time my pop3-mail-accounts (IMAP not) were build in Vivaldi but they are empty and there is no hdd-activity anymore.
So we'll see what's next.
Nevertheless thanks a lot we have M3! -
@paxmentat please write a bug report - the CEO himself says so
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@wildente done! let's hope the best.
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@wildente said in Importing from M2:
@paxmentat please write a bug report - the CEO himself says so
Just added there a reference to my post too as a bug report, thanks!
My bug report has been given the issue reference VB-81599 -
Hi
Can anyone confirm or deny that with the latest snapshot importing email from opera12.18 doesn't work. Accounts are imported but emails not. All folders are empty. There is only message. I know that importing was working few snapshots back.
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@teevar said in Importing from M2:
Can anyone confirm or deny that with the latest snapshot importing email from opera12.18 doesn't work.
I cannot confirm, I just created a fresh profile and imported around 20k messages from M2. I just looked at a couple of them but overall things seem to be ok.
So when you click on all messages or received, the lists are empty?
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With new profile everything is ok but the old one is in some way corrupter. Looks like i will have to synch everything and stay with new profile.
Does vivaldi have some kind of config file for email accounts just like we had with M2 (accounts.ini)?
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Hello,
I also tried to import from Opera Mail 1.0, but no luck - only accounts (without passwords) and contacts got imported. Reported a bug here.
Using the trick with relocation of contacts.adr I manager to import mails, but unfortunately it it total mess:- Lot of mails not assigned to their accounts in All accounts tree.
- No labels transferred
- Trashcan, Spam not supported - all messages went into Unread/Received folders
- Sent messages not assigned to their respective folders in All accounts tree
At this point I am not exploring further, deleting all from Vivaldi and going back to Opera mail...
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@lukaszj I must admit - I still don't understand why they insist on rolling out buggy "import from Opera 12" functionality as the only way to import mail at first.
To me they obviously should have started with simple mail import/export of generic plain-text mail files (as sent by mail systems and found in *NIX mailers) before trying to add customisations for various mail client file formats.
At least you could have just given your Opera Mail storage location and let it read in all the .MBS files it found. And people using Thunderbird etc. could find a way to export their mail in the generic format which Vivaldi could then import.
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@mossman I partially agree (I clearly agree that this would be better if importing would work with plain text files, I disagree that it's simpler or the necessarily correct approach), but it does not seem to be as simple given the current constraints (e.g. mails that do not "belong" to an account present in your config files because they were auto-forwarded or moved to another address can still not be sorted). I'm not sure whether the issues that you encounter are due to design that did not account for your use case, but due to the case explained it may be an issue to import plain text mails, as M3 would just not know in which account / view to display them. There are certainly solutions, but It's a relatively complex matter. Certainly go ahead and always report bugs if you encounter any.
Regarding them: @gmg and the team have been more active on the forums lately, so I believe they are not unlikely to read or even respond to [your] constructive suggestions.
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@jumpsq said in Importing from M2:
@mossman I partially agree (I clearly agree that this would be better if importing would work with plain text files, I disagree that it's simpler or the necessarily correct approach), but it does not seem to be as simple given the current constraints (e.g. mails that do not "belong" to an account present in your config files because they were auto-forwarded or moved to another address can still not be sorted). I'm not sure whether the issues that you encounter are due to design that did not account for your use case, but due to the case explained it may be an issue to import plain text mails, as M3 would just not know in which account / view to display them. There are certainly solutions, but It's a relatively complex matter. Certainly go ahead and always report bugs if you encounter any.
Regarding them: @gmg and the team have been more active on the forums lately, so I believe they are not unlikely to read or even respond to [your] constructive suggestions.
No... it is literally more simple since the plain text .MBS etc. files are exactly what is sent over the internet and read by every mail client, including Vivaldi. All you need to do in that case is to read a stream of characters from the filesystem as if it was coming from a mail server. Literally could not be easier!
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@mossman probably you're right and it's all included in the headers somehow. Fair enough then.
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I also noticed that M2 import is broken again.
It worked fine until snapshot 4.4.2473.3. After this snapshot Import was not possible at all because the mail import option is greyed out.
Then, with 5.0 final (and also testing with current snapshot 5.0.2497.25) import is possible again, but it does not work properly.
I am importing six mail accounts from Opera Mail, all six accounts are created but only for two of these accounts the mails are imported, the rest remain empty:
Importing exactly these six accounts works fine until 4.4.2473.3.
I have submitted VB-84906 for this issue - FYI @ltgormThanks for checking this!
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also reported as VB-84729 here https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/69069/no-e-mailimport-anymore/5