Importing from M2
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@mossman said in Importing from M2:
On the other hand, I don't know if programs "see" links as if they are real files in Windows.
Apparently not. I will now try it by modifying the existing directories to match the criteria:
- import folder contains contacts.adr and "mail" (so I rename the mail directory to "mail" and copy the contacts file to directory above it)
- "mail" contains "accounts.ini" and "store" (this is already true)
- select the directory above "mail" as the profile location
Edit: well it did something... but not much. The mail panel appeared and lists two of the accounts (I have much more than two). No messages. The antivirus was active for a few seconds. That's about it!
I'll try a couple more times since I saw other people saying it worked if you repeated it.
Edit: well that's very odd... I tried again four or five times and was literally about to give up when it suddenly started churning! 2.5 hours to go - but at least it's importing now. I noticed there was some garbage in the accounts settings which I now wish I'd cleared before it suddenly kicked into action... empty accounts and accounts with nonsense filled in... hope that's not a problem since I'll have to wait a couple of hours now before I can check!
Edit: the annoying thing is... the only account which doesn't seem to have been picked up properly is my current main account! So I expect I will have to delete everything and try again tomorrow. Joy! (Edit: scrap that, it automagically appeared a few minutes later)
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@mossman Okay, it took 3 hours but it's finished.
Late now so I'm not going to do too much investigating but a couple of observations:
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it didn't import my contacts
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it puts sent mail into "Sent" folders, but received mail into "Imported Unknown Folder" instead of "Inbox" as you would expect.
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the total data in Vivaldi is about 7GB versus 8GB in Opera - so that looks like mail is missing (the EML and MBS files for the messages are actually identical!(*)). I will have to investigate further some time. It might have removed duplicates (Hotmail seems to generate duplicates when I send from my phone; I remember I used to have to BCC myself to keep a copy when using webmail and my older phones back in the day as well), and I know the Opera database is flaky so there may be messages stored which are not in the database any more.
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it split one of my accounts into two versions (one using all lower case in the address, the other with some capitals). This split goes right back to the beginning in 2000 - so not, as I first thought, when I changed from using POP to IMAP or when I might have changed settings for some reason. Again, I'll have to investigate.
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it created two blank accounts, one called "0" and one with an odd version of my mail address ending in a localhost IP address - I think this might be back when I used a little bit of software to pick up webmail pages and convert them into POP (wow! I'd forgotten all about that until just now! memories...). I could delete them no problem.
It was quite fun to read some of my old mail from more than a decade ago - and also quite embarassing to read what a dick I was back then in some angry mails I sent out!
(*) I remember a recent discussion on here when people were saying how it might be hard to import mailbox files as they are a different format to EML... well so much for that! These imported messages are literally the same files - even all the Opera indexing tags are still there...
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@mossman said in Importing from M2:
Apparently not.
On my system I've created junction (see below), selected profile folder "C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\Opera Mail" and import started.
mklink /j "C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\Opera Mail\mail" "j:\Data\Opera\Opera\mail\"
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@fifonik said in Importing from M2:
@mossman said in Importing from M2:
Apparently not.
On my system I've created junction (see below), selected profile folder "C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\Opera Mail" and import started.
mklink /j "C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\Opera Mail\mail" "j:\Data\Opera\Opera\mail\"
Interesting tip - I hadn't heard of mklink before, seems it was introduced in Vista (which I never used). So yeah, that's the kind of symbolic link I was talking about in Linux - rather than the File Manager shortcut I tried.
I'll add this to my Opera profile directory for future import when M3 goes stable...
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@mossman I was thinking about this - I suppose then I can import mail into stable, and when I'm happy everything has worked properly I can move it to the same drive the Opera mail data is stored and link to it from the Vivaldi profile directory...
Good to know!
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@mossman said in Importing from M2:
@mossman I was thinking about this - I suppose then I can import mail into stable, and when I'm happy everything has worked properly I can move it to the same drive the Opera mail data is stored and link to it from the Vivaldi profile directory...
Good to know!
My snapshot was borked, so I just reinstalled and tried to import mail again using mlkink this time. Didn't work...
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@mossman said in Importing from M2:
@mossman said in Importing from M2:
@mossman I was thinking about this - I suppose then I can import mail into stable, and when I'm happy everything has worked properly I can move it to the same drive the Opera mail data is stored and link to it from the Vivaldi profile directory...
Good to know!
My snapshot was borked, so I just reinstalled and tried to import mail again using
mlkinkmklink this time. Didn't work...Aaaaand today I tried it by re-naming the mail directory to "mail" and selecting the directory above (containing contacts.adr)... and that didn't work either. All the more frustrating that it did import after several attempts that one time... weird!
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Vivaldi 3.8.2238.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
Revision 6f89cf57a027cee5f161aa3686153f27e233f433
OS Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (Build 7601.24544)Import is working:
I have two paths:
C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera x64 <- there was contacts.adr
C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Opera\Opera x64 <- there was the restsimply copied contacts.adr to the folder C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Opera\Opera x64 - after that Import started
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@verdi Yes, it's very strange - for me it usually doesn't work but then suddenly it does.
As you bumped the thread I tried again (renaming the folder on my other drive to "mail") and today it started importing. I already had the contacts.adr file in the folder above that but it refused to do anything when I tried about ten times last week...
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Thanks at first for this post, it really is what I was looking for. However in contrast, it didn't work for me to import my email and contacts properly from Opera Mail to Vivaldi Mail.
Despite I put the contacts.adr in the mail folder, and it started to import everything, I came accross the following two-three issues which is why I had to abort the import:
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e.g. it mixed IMAP account folders from AIM Mail account (which AOL migrated to AOLMail putting their AIM Mails in a separated IMAP folder for each former registered mail account alias) and showed them in my POP3 POP3 web.de account
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E,g, it couldn't detect the inbox folder of my GMX.de pop3 mail account and imported it as unknown imported folder"
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it imported only 1 email address of my contacts.adr, i.e. the contact with the name "HΓ₯kan Sundell"
Looks like the 'Γ₯' made Vivalidi mail to ignore all other contacts in that file?
are those issues known or shall I import than to somewhere? I found no workaround or "fix" for either of those issues.
Thanks in advance!
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No luck for me. It doesn' matter which folder i choose (Opera, mail, profile, store) in my Opera 12.18 portable edition. Even copy the contacts.adr to the several folders didn't help.
When choosing the profile-folder and do the import: after a short time my pop3-mail-accounts (IMAP not) were build in Vivaldi but they are empty and there is no hdd-activity anymore.
So we'll see what's next.
Nevertheless thanks a lot we have M3! -
@paxmentat please write a bug report - the CEO himself says so
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@wildente done! let's hope the best.
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@wildente said in Importing from M2:
@paxmentat please write a bug report - the CEO himself says so
Just added there a reference to my post too as a bug report, thanks!
My bug report has been given the issue reference VB-81599 -
Hi
Can anyone confirm or deny that with the latest snapshot importing email from opera12.18 doesn't work. Accounts are imported but emails not. All folders are empty. There is only message. I know that importing was working few snapshots back.
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@teevar said in Importing from M2:
Can anyone confirm or deny that with the latest snapshot importing email from opera12.18 doesn't work.
I cannot confirm, I just created a fresh profile and imported around 20k messages from M2. I just looked at a couple of them but overall things seem to be ok.
So when you click on all messages or received, the lists are empty?
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With new profile everything is ok but the old one is in some way corrupter. Looks like i will have to synch everything and stay with new profile.
Does vivaldi have some kind of config file for email accounts just like we had with M2 (accounts.ini)?
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Hello,
I also tried to import from Opera Mail 1.0, but no luck - only accounts (without passwords) and contacts got imported. Reported a bug here.
Using the trick with relocation of contacts.adr I manager to import mails, but unfortunately it it total mess:- Lot of mails not assigned to their accounts in All accounts tree.
- No labels transferred
- Trashcan, Spam not supported - all messages went into Unread/Received folders
- Sent messages not assigned to their respective folders in All accounts tree
At this point I am not exploring further, deleting all from Vivaldi and going back to Opera mail...
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@lukaszj I must admit - I still don't understand why they insist on rolling out buggy "import from Opera 12" functionality as the only way to import mail at first.
To me they obviously should have started with simple mail import/export of generic plain-text mail files (as sent by mail systems and found in *NIX mailers) before trying to add customisations for various mail client file formats.
At least you could have just given your Opera Mail storage location and let it read in all the .MBS files it found. And people using Thunderbird etc. could find a way to export their mail in the generic format which Vivaldi could then import.
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@mossman I partially agree (I clearly agree that this would be better if importing would work with plain text files, I disagree that it's simpler or the necessarily correct approach), but it does not seem to be as simple given the current constraints (e.g. mails that do not "belong" to an account present in your config files because they were auto-forwarded or moved to another address can still not be sorted). I'm not sure whether the issues that you encounter are due to design that did not account for your use case, but due to the case explained it may be an issue to import plain text mails, as M3 would just not know in which account / view to display them. There are certainly solutions, but It's a relatively complex matter. Certainly go ahead and always report bugs if you encounter any.
Regarding them: @gmg and the team have been more active on the forums lately, so I believe they are not unlikely to read or even respond to [your] constructive suggestions.