Importing from M2
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@paxmentat please write a bug report - the CEO himself says so
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@wildente done! let's hope the best.
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@wildente said in Importing from M2:
@paxmentat please write a bug report - the CEO himself says so
Just added there a reference to my post too as a bug report, thanks!
My bug report has been given the issue reference VB-81599 -
Hi
Can anyone confirm or deny that with the latest snapshot importing email from opera12.18 doesn't work. Accounts are imported but emails not. All folders are empty. There is only message. I know that importing was working few snapshots back.
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@teevar said in Importing from M2:
Can anyone confirm or deny that with the latest snapshot importing email from opera12.18 doesn't work.
I cannot confirm, I just created a fresh profile and imported around 20k messages from M2. I just looked at a couple of them but overall things seem to be ok.
So when you click on all messages or received, the lists are empty?
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With new profile everything is ok but the old one is in some way corrupter. Looks like i will have to synch everything and stay with new profile.
Does vivaldi have some kind of config file for email accounts just like we had with M2 (accounts.ini)?
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Hello,
I also tried to import from Opera Mail 1.0, but no luck - only accounts (without passwords) and contacts got imported. Reported a bug here.
Using the trick with relocation of contacts.adr I manager to import mails, but unfortunately it it total mess:- Lot of mails not assigned to their accounts in All accounts tree.
- No labels transferred
- Trashcan, Spam not supported - all messages went into Unread/Received folders
- Sent messages not assigned to their respective folders in All accounts tree
At this point I am not exploring further, deleting all from Vivaldi and going back to Opera mail...
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@lukaszj I must admit - I still don't understand why they insist on rolling out buggy "import from Opera 12" functionality as the only way to import mail at first.
To me they obviously should have started with simple mail import/export of generic plain-text mail files (as sent by mail systems and found in *NIX mailers) before trying to add customisations for various mail client file formats.
At least you could have just given your Opera Mail storage location and let it read in all the .MBS files it found. And people using Thunderbird etc. could find a way to export their mail in the generic format which Vivaldi could then import.
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@mossman I partially agree (I clearly agree that this would be better if importing would work with plain text files, I disagree that it's simpler or the necessarily correct approach), but it does not seem to be as simple given the current constraints (e.g. mails that do not "belong" to an account present in your config files because they were auto-forwarded or moved to another address can still not be sorted). I'm not sure whether the issues that you encounter are due to design that did not account for your use case, but due to the case explained it may be an issue to import plain text mails, as M3 would just not know in which account / view to display them. There are certainly solutions, but It's a relatively complex matter. Certainly go ahead and always report bugs if you encounter any.
Regarding them: @gmg and the team have been more active on the forums lately, so I believe they are not unlikely to read or even respond to [your] constructive suggestions.
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@jumpsq said in Importing from M2:
@mossman I partially agree (I clearly agree that this would be better if importing would work with plain text files, I disagree that it's simpler or the necessarily correct approach), but it does not seem to be as simple given the current constraints (e.g. mails that do not "belong" to an account present in your config files because they were auto-forwarded or moved to another address can still not be sorted). I'm not sure whether the issues that you encounter are due to design that did not account for your use case, but due to the case explained it may be an issue to import plain text mails, as M3 would just not know in which account / view to display them. There are certainly solutions, but It's a relatively complex matter. Certainly go ahead and always report bugs if you encounter any.
Regarding them: @gmg and the team have been more active on the forums lately, so I believe they are not unlikely to read or even respond to [your] constructive suggestions.
No... it is literally more simple since the plain text .MBS etc. files are exactly what is sent over the internet and read by every mail client, including Vivaldi. All you need to do in that case is to read a stream of characters from the filesystem as if it was coming from a mail server. Literally could not be easier!
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@mossman probably you're right and it's all included in the headers somehow. Fair enough then.
And yes, I'm also hoping for a more comprehensive import. -
I also noticed that M2 import is broken again.
It worked fine until snapshot 4.4.2473.3. After this snapshot Import was not possible at all because the mail import option is greyed out.
Then, with 5.0 final (and also testing with current snapshot 5.0.2497.25) import is possible again, but it does not work properly.
I am importing six mail accounts from Opera Mail, all six accounts are created but only for two of these accounts the mails are imported, the rest remain empty:
Importing exactly these six accounts works fine until 4.4.2473.3.
I have submitted VB-84906 for this issue - FYI @ltgormThanks for checking this!
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also reported as VB-84729 here https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/69069/no-e-mailimport-anymore/5
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@WildEnte thanks, but this only covers the mail import being greyed out, the primary issue here is that for some accounts no mails are being imported.
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@jaws @gmg I found a simple fix/workaround to VB-84729 and potentially VB-84906
So mail is usually located in
C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\Opera\Opera\Mail
but the profile is in
C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera
(AppData\Roaming vs. AppData\Local)While Opera is closed, move the entire mail folder from C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\Opera\Opera\Mail
to C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\MailNow Vivaldi finds mail immediately, the checkbox is not greyed out and the import works fine. Once the import is done, move the mail folder back to C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\Opera\Opera\Mail and Opera won't even have noticed anything
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That's a good tip, thanks - however, in my case the profile is contained in a portable installation of Opera Mail, so no user folder involved at all.
The issue described in VB-84906 remains... I am importing 6 mail accounts. The accounts are all created, however just two of the accounts get their mail imported. The order in which I try to import dictates which accounts get imported. So the mail is not corrupted.
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@jaws just install Opera 12.18, copy the mail folder into C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\Mail and get it over with
Opera12.18 can still be found here --> https://ftp.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera/win/1218/en/
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@WildEnte I just tried that - indeed, the mailfolder is now found automatically. However still only the mails for two of the six accounts get imported, the rest is ignored. Trying to delete the remaining 4 accounts and reimporting them still results in only the empty account being created, no mails are imported.
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@jaws in my case I had some seemingly borked accounts already in the age old Opera. What I ended up doing was to export the mails to mbox files from Opera 12, which is a bit of work but straight-forward:
I used the wrench icon above all messages to show only one account at a time and did this for Received & Sent for each account individually. Right-click the filter you want to export, choose "export" from the context menu, and give the file a nice descriptive name. So I ended up with received and sent mbox files for all my accounts.
Then I closed Opera, renamed the mail folder and fired Opera up again without any mail account. Now I set up some dummy pop accounts with the correct email addresses, and imported the corresponding mbox files back into the fresh mail profile.
Then I had Vivaldi import all those emails after moving the Opera mail folder to appdata/roaming. Yes, it's almost too easy.
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@WildEnte - thing is, these exact accounts can all successfully be imported when using snapshot 4.4.2473.3 or earlier. With newer versions it stops working as described above, at least after the second account.
So this obviously is a bug that should be fixed in any case. Unfortunately, I have not heard anything regarding VB-84906 - I hope they will get around to checking this soon.